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class=503113803-12032015>Alan,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=503113803-12032015>Yes, there is a very small amount of smoke in the
volume of a 1-3 person submarine, compared to a building fire. Air filter
respirators cartridges, combined with scrubbing and O2 replenishment accomplish
the same thing as an SCBA, but without increasing cabin
pressure.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=503113803-12032015>Adam</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Personal_Submersibles
[mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Alan James
via Personal_Submersibles<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:21
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4252 dir=ltr><SPAN>OK I follow.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4253 dir=ltr><SPAN>So would the filter system
filter out the smoke?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4254 dir=ltr><SPAN>I see firemen using
compressed air, not filters.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4255 dir=ltr><SPAN>Flown over Houston but
never visited.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4256 dir=ltr><SPAN>Alan</SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Adam
Lawrence via Personal_Submersibles
<personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'Personal Submersibles General
Discussion' <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, March 12, 2015 4:04
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
Ballast air<BR></FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial>Allen,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4265 dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
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id=yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4263 color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>No, not
breathing pure O2, just enough to sustain you at the normal needed consumption
rate, this O2 is mixed with filtered and scrubbed cabin air at the canister
when you inhale.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=yiv2768673739160040003-12032015><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>A
one tam sub, I am in Houston Texas.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>Adam</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT id=yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4270 size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<BR clear=none><B>Sent:</B>
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:46 PM<BR clear=none><B>To:</B> Personal Submersibles
General Discussion<BR clear=none><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast
air<BR clear=none></FONT><BR clear=none></DIV>
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id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2856>So are you breathing pure O2 in
an emergency situation?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855 dir=ltr>I guess the only
time you would have a full face mask on</DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855 dir=ltr>is when there is
smoke in the cabin from a fire.</DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855 dir=ltr>If you breathed
pure O2 you would be adding more fuel to the</DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855 dir=ltr>flames.</DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855 dir=ltr>What sort of sub do
you own Adam & what part of the World are you from?</DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855 dir=ltr>I'm down in
N.Z.</DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855 dir=ltr>Alan</DIV><BR
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Adam Lawrence via
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clear=none><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'Personal
Submersibles General Discussion' <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <BR
clear=none><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, March
12, 2015 3:24 PM<BR clear=none><B><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi Allen,</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT color=#000000></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2812
class=yiv2768673739MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_5662 style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What
I have is simpler than a full blown rebreather.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2813
class=yiv2768673739MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2814 style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The
oxygen supply/flow enters the cabin at the scrubber canister. The canister has
an air filter on it already (dust/smoke/hydrogen sulfide...). The emergency
piece of equipment is a full face mask with a hose that connects to the scrubber
assembly (fan off) on the inhale side, exhale goes back into the
cabin.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2816
class=yiv2768673739MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2817 style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The next
simple version may be just a full face mask with dust/vapor cartridge, good
enough to keep your eyes and lungs clean while making a quick
ascent.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></DIV>
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id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_5659 style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Those
millionaires get all the toys.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Adam</SPAN><SPAN
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[mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Alan James
via Personal_Submersibles<BR clear=none><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 11, 2015
5:27 PM<BR clear=none><B>To:</B> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<BR
clear=none><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<BR
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<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154 dir=ltr><SPAN>Hi
Adam,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154 dir=ltr><SPAN
id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6256>that would require a rebreather
style set up to do that.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154 dir=ltr>I believe they had
a rebreather back up on James Camerons sub.</DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154 dir=ltr>A bit expensive
& complicated.</DIV>
<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154 dir=ltr>Alan</DIV><BR
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Adam Lawrence via
Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR
clear=none><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'Personal
Submersibles General Discussion' <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <BR
clear=none><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, March
12, 2015 8:27 AM<BR clear=none><B><SPAN
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<DIV id=yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_7452
class=yiv2768673739y_msg_container><BR clear=none>For emergencies, wouldn’t you
use a full-face mask connected to a CO2<BR clear=none>scrubber and air filter
and pure oxygen, all on the inhale side...<BR clear=none><BR
clear=none>Compressed scuba air would increase cabin pressure and make things<BR
clear=none>uncomfortable...<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>-----Original
Message-----<BR clear=none>From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<A
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clear=none>On Behalf Of hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<BR clear=none>Sent:
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:26 AM<BR clear=none>To: Personal Submersibles
General Discussion<BR clear=none>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<BR
clear=none><BR clear=none><BR clear=none>Brian,<BR clear=none>I don't mean
oxygen, I mean regular scuba air. I have and am sure all<BR
clear=none>other subs have scuba breathing apparatus for emergencies like
smoke. I<BR clear=none>take air from my ballast supply for that
purpose. If your ballast air is<BR clear=none>Nitrogen then you will need
an extra tank for emergency breathing. <BR clear=none>Hank
--------------------------------------------<BR clear=none>On Wed, 3/11/15,
Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles<BR clear=none><<A
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wrote:<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<BR
clear=none>To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"<BR clear=none><<A
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clear=none>Received: Wednesday, March 11, 2015, 10:18 AM<BR clear=none><BR
clear=none>Yes, my oxygen will be a separate<BR clear=none>tank, or tanks.<BR
clear=none><BR clear=none>Brian<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>--- <A
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clear=none>wrote:<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>From: hank pronk via
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clear=none>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<BR clear=none><<A
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clear=none>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<BR clear=none>Date: Wed, 11
Mar 2015 05:37:11 -0700<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>Brian,<BR clear=none>You
must be planning to have a separate tank for emergency air for<BR
clear=none>breathing, in case of fire etc.<BR clear=none>Hank<BR
clear=none>--------------------------------------------<BR clear=none>On Wed,
3/11/15, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles<BR clear=none><<A
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Ballast air<BR clear=none> To: "PSubs" <<A
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clear=none> Received: Wednesday, March 11, 2015, 2:50 AM<BR
clear=none> <BR clear=none> I'm planning on having<BR
clear=none> 3 - 300cu ft air cylinders for my ballast supply air.<BR
clear=none> I noticed that if I get them filled with nitrogen it is<BR
clear=none> cheaper than getting breathing or industrial air<BR
clear=none> ! That is, until I get my own<BR clear=none>
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