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size=2>Somebody has to check if the surface is
clean - so Commander first. :-)<BR></font><BR><FONT size=2 face="Courier
New">We
have written protocolls / diagramms for nearly everything..
<BR></FONT>.. but
not for that. We make a trainning course instead..<BR><BR>There are to
much
possibilities in that sub. Escape from the sail, escape from the
chamber, with
scuba gear, <BR>with Steinke hood, without gear, waiting in the sub,
repair the
sub etc. <BR><BR>But Emile is right we take two conversions on the
Steinke
hoods: <BR>New neck skirt from neopren and a scuba adapter. <BR><BR>I
personal
think the unit will also work semi blown or even not blown. <BR>The
decreasing
water presserue will do the "blow job"..during accent. <BR><BR>VBR
Carsten<BR>
<BR>"Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles"
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>Hi Carsten, I know you are very organized with your sub.
Do you have a written procedure for escaping from your sub?
Regards, Hugh <o:p></O:P></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
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> Personal_Submersibles
[mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>"Carsten Standfuß" via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday,
16 January 2015 9:05 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General
Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] FW: Escape with
Steinke Hoods.<o:p></O:P></span></p></div></div><p
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"'>The Steinke
hood can be use with air, ever in greater deep the time to the
surface will be very short. More serious is the flooding time of the
submarine. <br><br>If you need 20 Minutes to flood the submarine in
100 meter deep (300 feet) it do not matter any more which gas you have
in the hood for 1-2 minutes. <br>You will get decompression illness or
dead anyway. <br><br>The compression time in the submarine has to be
short as possible.<br>A big flood valve help. Releaseing the rest of you
gas from the boats-bottles at the end of the flooding time into your
flood cpompartment to equalize the pressure help also. <br><br>One
drawback of the Steinke Hood is that it is even as expirence sportdiver
nearly impossible to stop the unit at 9 or 6 or 3 m deep for a
decompression stop. <br></span><br><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAP_Pacocha_%28SS-48%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAP_Pacocha_%28SS-48%29</a><br><br>another
from the internet: <o:p></O:P></p><h3><span style="COLOR: blue"
>Exercise Sorbet Royal</span><o:p></O:P></h3><p>A NATO exercise, Sorbet
Royal in May 2002 (Cohen 2003), demonstrated the effectiveness of the
system when four crewmembers and five others from Denmark, the UK and
USA, both men and women, donned SEIE suits to simulate an escape from
the Swedish submarine <em>Vastergotland</em>, down 115 feet off the
coast of Denmark. The submarine’s escape tower had a four to six minutes
recycle time, (determined chiefly the time it takes to drain the flooded
tower) but they used a 15-minute interval for this demonstration. The
exercise worked as briefed, with 18 seconds required for the pressure
equalisation phase, the pressure doubling roughly every four seconds or
so, and nine seconds required for the ascent. Rescue units, including a
decompression chamber, were waiting in smooth seas on the
surface.<o:p></O:P></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>Vbr Carsten
<br><br><br>"Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles" <<A
href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>
schrieb:<br>> Hi Hank, Comsub has no flood valves and I was going to
put one in but would<br>> have to weld through the hull.<br>> My
concern is that the effects of narcosis at that depth will be
fairly<br>> severe and that a mixed gas might prevent that and allow
clearer thinking.<br>> Hugh<br>> <br>> <br>> -----Original
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On Behalf Of hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br>> Sent: Friday,
16 January 2015 2:02 a.m.<br>> To: Personal Submersibles General
Discussion<br>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] FW: Escape with Steinke
Hoods.<br>> <br>> Hugh,<br>> My understanding is, use regular
tank air because your bottom time is so<br>> short. One of the
members posted an allowable time chart for flooding. I<br>> think it
is something like 1min 30 sec for 400 feet.<br>> Does Com Sub have a
flood valve, Gamma never did until I put one in.<br>> Hank<br>>
--------------------------------------------<br>> On Wed, 1/14/15,
Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles<br>> <<A
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wrote:<br>> <br>> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] FW: Escape with Steinke
Hoods.<br>> To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'"<br>>
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Received: Wednesday, January 14, 2015, 10:51 PM<br>> <br>>
<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Hi Guys,My two<br>>
Steinke hoods turned up. Made in USA 1982. Still in good
condition. I <br>> have looked at the escape training
video which was great. Questions. It is<br>> obvious you need a
fill hose for the initial fill at depth prior to<br>> opening the
hatch. i.e. if you are at 10 atmospheres depth then you
need<br>> to fill it with 10 atmospheres (bar) pressurised air. 1.
How many of you<br>> are adding a Steinke fill hose with an Aro
coupling for this purpose. 2.<br>> Breathing this will give you
narcosis. So is it better to have 2 bottles<br>> of mixed gas
for this purpose? One for 8-15 bar depth escapes and one for<br>>
16-25 bar depth escapes. Air could be used up to 8 bar.3. What are
the<br>> mixes recommended for these depths to prevent narcosis as it
could take 5<br>> minutes to pressurise and escape. Chs Hugh.<br>>
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