<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8275"><span>Scott,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8277"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8276">my program gives me a 5682 ft crush depth for a 1" thick 60" I.D. sphere of 516 gr 70,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8278"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8684">& a positive buoyancy of 1,370 lb.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8278"><span>If you were thinking along that line it might be worthwhile visiting Karl.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8278"><span>Alan</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8282"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8281"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8280"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8422"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8279"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "swaters@waters-ks.com via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 9, 2015 12:10 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8283"><br><div id="yiv2416961014"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8285"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8284">Cool. Thanks Vance. Yea, where I am stuck currently is the pressure calcs on 516 gr 70. My question was how thick of 516 gr 70 for a 60" sphere would it have to be to handle 3300 feet (2000 psi for safety margin. My second question is how positivly or negatively boyant would that be. I can reaily get hemispherical heads of 516 gr 70.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8286">Thanks,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8287">Scott Waters</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8989"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8288"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8421"><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420763115457_8420">Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone</div></div><div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-------- Original message --------<br clear="none">From: via Personal_Submersibles <br clear="none">Date:01/08/2015 5:01 PM (GMT-06:00) <br clear="none">To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org <br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><font color="black" size="3" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="3"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">You'll get plenty of encouragement from us, I would think, along with an appropriate amount of razzing. Don't worry about the nay-sayers. I would remind you that Karl Stanley has been listening to that shit for years. Well, not listening exactly, because he went ahead in spite of them, and looks pretty cheerful about the results. Who wouldn't be?</font></font>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3">And speaking of Idabel, have you thought about multiple spheres? I talked to Karl in New Orleans a couple of years ago, and did some figuring afterwards. A couple of intersecting 5' spheres with a free flooding sail and a few small cameras might get you a 5-tonnish sub. Do the big Perry style viewport in front with maybe some 12-inchers on either side in both hulls? Maybe a dome hatch/conn on top in the back sphere? It might need some foam to float, but that isn't much of a problem these days. Hmm.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3">Idabel's aft sphere and conning tower are A516GR70, in case you were wondering. You'd have to run some numbers. Maybe .75" wall? I'm not sure. Something to think about, anyway. And small is good for psubs, right?</font></div>
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<div>Thanks Alan!!! That really means alot to me. In my hobby, I don't get alot of encouragement from others untill I am sucsessful. It is nice to have it along the way!</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2416961014yui_3_16_0_1_1420747507613_3774"><span id="yiv2416961014yui_3_16_0_1_1420747507613_3776">you made a K350 in record time & you are relatively young as a sub builder.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv2416961014MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-------- Original message --------<br clear="none">From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <br clear="none">Date:01/07/2015 1:39 PM (GMT-06:00) <br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Scott,<br clear="none">I thought Vance said they were 516-70, I must have read it wrong. I don't know what your planning with a 1,000m capable sub. I can't imagine diving that deep with no means of rescue. Are you planning on two subs maybe? Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. What about copying one in 516-70 and live with the depth capability. I would imagine you could see 1,000 feet plus, a very respectable and affordable Psub. <br clear="none">Hank--------------------------------------------<br clear="none">On Wed, 1/7/15, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a> via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub<br clear="none">To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">Received: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 1:44 PM<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I would<br clear="none">love to, except a Pisces is HY-100, which I am having a<br clear="none">terrible time getting that material. I'd love to go on a<br clear="none">deep dive with you though! I am going to Seneca lake New<br clear="none">York this April for some deep diving. Might be also going to<br clear="none">lake Michigan this year<br clear="none">too.Thanks,Scott Waters<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent<br clear="none">from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-------- Original message --------<br clear="none">From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <br clear="none">Date:01/07/2015 12:23 PM (GMT-06:00) <br clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> <br clear="none">Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scott's new sub <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Hi Scott,<br clear="none">Maybe you could save some money and time if you just copy a<br clear="none">pices sub. Check with the folks at Nuytco, maybe you can<br clear="none">crawl around the sub with caliper in hand. Perhaps you<br clear="none">could even look at the drawings, I am sure they are with the<br clear="none">sub. When your done measuring the sub, swing by and we<br clear="none">can go for a spin in a deep lake.<br clear="none">Hank <br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></div>
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