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<div>Those lights on your link look good. Let us know how you get on with your test next week, I and im sure others would be interested to know how they perform.<br>Thanks</div>
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<div><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang="EN-GB">Attached the drawing how I made my lamps. It is open source now..<u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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