<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Here's a picture of the oil compensated Nereus lights. (attached bottom of page)</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.333333969116211px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal" class=""><span class="" style="">They have plastic elbows running out of the light housing with the wire</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.333333969116211px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal" class=""><span class="" style="">runs </span><span style="background-color: transparent" class="">in oil filled plastic
 tubing.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.333333969116211px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal" class=""><span style="background-color: transparent" class="">Alan</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.333333969116211px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal" class=""><span style="background-color: transparent" class=""><br class="" style=""></span></div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div>  <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt" class=""> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <hr
 size="1" class="" style="">  <font size="2" face="Arial" class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">From:</span></b> via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold" class="">To:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold" class="">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:59 AM<br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold" class="">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Lights<br class="" style=""> </font> </div> <div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><div id="yiv3096331948" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#000000;font-size:10pt" class=""><div class="" style="">Very cool. I never thought about oil compensating a light.</div>
<div class="" style="">Thanks,</div>
<div class="" style="">Scott Waters </div>
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<div id="yiv3096331948wmQuoteWrapper" class="" style="">-------- Original Message --------<br class="" style="">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Lights<br class="" style="">From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br class="" style=""><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style="">Date: Tue, May 13, 2014 12:58 pm<br class="" style="">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br class="" style=""><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">When I was at Nuytco, I held a light for the DW subs, it is a bunch of led's in a square housing with a rubber membrane on the back filled with
 oil. A simple box with an acrylic lens, very simple.<br class="" style="">Hank--------------------------------------------<br class="" style="">On Tue, 5/13/14, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Lights<br class="" style="">To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style="">Received: Tuesday, May 13, 2014, 11:08 AM<br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">I think they might corrode,<br class="" style="">but there's an easy way to find out. Its so fast, if<br class="" style="">they
 do corrode you will find out pretty quickly. Mine<br class="" style="">sprouted white stuff all over them, they looked a bit like<br class="" style="">the barnacles on whales after just hours.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">:(<br class="" style="">Alec<br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">On Tue, May 13, 2014 at<br class="" style="">9:34 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style="">wrote:<br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">hmm.  Got me worried now<br class="" style="">Alec.    <br class="" style=""> <br class="" style="">I have a mains feed into my lights (via a blue<br class="" style="">globe).  I just soldered the live to the Centre spring and<br class="" style="">the return to what appears
 to be the body.  Do you think<br class="" style="">ive got a leak here.  I suspect so.<br class="" style=""><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/Extended_files/Page24089.htm" class="" style="">http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/Extended_files/Page24089.htm</a><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style="">The only saving grace is perhaps they are insulated as<br class="" style="">there is a rubber pad in between the mounting bracket and<br class="" style="">the light.  <br class="" style=""><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/Extended_files/Page24944.htm" class="" style="">http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/Extended_files/Page24944.htm</a><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style="">What do you think?<br class="" style="">Regards<br class="" style="">James<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">On 13 May 2014 14:02,<br class=""
 style="">Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style="">wrote:<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">I used Trustfire lights for a season on<br class="" style="">Snoopy but the experience was all around bad. I bought two,<br class="" style="">one of which did not work due to a faulty connection at the<br class="" style="">endcap (which acts like a switch). The factory shipped me a<br class="" style="">new end-cap that fixed the problem. In fresh water they<br class="" style="">worked well, but when I went to Islamorada last year they<br class="" style="">lasted less than a day in the salt water. After just hours,<br class="" style="">one stopped working altogether and both lights were
 very<br class="" style="">visibly corroded. Silly me, I hadn't thought this<br class="" style="">through. The Trustfire lights close the circuit when you<br class="" style="">screw in the endcap on the handle. They use the light body<br class="" style="">itself as a conductor, like a car uses its chassis. I think<br class="" style="">the issue is that if you put two such lights in salt water,<br class="" style="">you will get stray currents between them.  <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">On next week's dive I'll be testing new lights,<br class="" style="">which are LED flood lights intended for tractors or off road<br class="" style="">vehicles. I've been really impressed with how solid<br class="" style="">these are. They are wired with two cables, rather than using<br class="" style="">the light body as a ground. Second, they have a little screw<br class="" style="">that serves no visible purpose, but which when
 removed<br class="" style="">allows you to fill them with mineral oil. It took a while to<br class="" style="">get the last bubbles out, but with patience you can fill<br class="" style="">these with oil and remove all bubbles in about an hour. The<br class="" style="">front plastic has a little give to absorb the compression if<br class="" style="">I have any bubbles left, but I think I have none. To fill<br class="" style="">them I used a syringe with a "dispenser needle"<br class="" style="">which is a blunt syringe needle you use for filling things<br class="" style="">rather than giving someone an injection. The lights are<br class="" style="">IP67, so supposedly water-tight, but my only mod was to<br class="" style="">reinforce the cable gland with some epoxy. We shall see how<br class="" style="">they work, but my hopes are up, I think these might finally<br class="" style="">be the ideal sub lights and can be used virtually off the<br class=""
 style="">shelf. I recommend not buying them until Snoopy returns from<br class="" style="">next week's dive, but here is the link if you want to<br class="" style="">take a look in the meantime.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/Lights/DC-Mobile-Equipment-Lights/12-24-VDC-3120-LUMEN-16-LED-UTILITY-FLOOD-LIGHT-12-999-B.axd" class="" style="">http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/Lights/DC-Mobile-Equipment-Lights/12-24-VDC-3120-LUMEN-16-LED-UTILITY-FLOOD-LIGHT-12-999-B.axd</a><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Best,<br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Alec<br class="" style="">    <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class=""
 style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">On Tue, May 13, 2014 at<br class="" style="">7:56 AM, swaters via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style="">wrote:<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Thanks Alan,<br class="" style="">I have been searching too for some kind of easy and<br class="" style="">cheap solution.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Thanks,<br class="" style="">Scott Waters<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Sent from my U.S.<br class="" style="">Cellular©
 Smartphone<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style="">wrote:<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Hi James,<br class="" style="">I<br class="" style="">bought 4 dive lights off deal extreme, but not a trustfire.<br class="" style="">This was in addition<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">to<br class="" style="">4 x 900 lumen torches I had bought previously.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">To<br class="" style="">date I have found them unreliable, mainly in the switching<br class="" style="">function. Most of them<br class=""
 style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">have<br class="" style="">3 to 5 modes, which only complicates things. I have been<br class="" style="">doing searches for<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">12V<br class="" style="">torches or flood lights, to make things easy. My latest<br class="" style="">posting of  a link to a 12V flood light was <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">the<br class="" style="">best I've found so far ($20-). <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.dx.com/p/ip67-waterproof-10w-700lm-6500k-white-light-led-spotlight-underwater-lamp-silver-216504#.U2rDL_mSxLY" class="" style="">http://www.dx.com/p/ip67-waterproof-10w-700lm-6500k-white-light-led-spotlight-underwater-lamp-silver-216504#.U2rDL_mSxLY</a><br class="" style=""><br
 class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">There<br class="" style="">is room in it to put multiple high powered leds & it<br class="" style="">looks<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">  like<br class="" style="">the thread in the back is compatible with a 12mm Blue Globe<br class="" style="">cable gland. There <br class="" style="">are<br class="" style="">a multitude of reflectors on the Deal extreme site to choose<br class="" style="">from.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">There<br class="" style="">is also space  at the front to put in an oring<br class="" style="">grove.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">I'm<br class="" style="">sure we could come up with some good cheap underwater<br class="" style="">lighting options under $100-<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class=""
 style="">Alan <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">From: James Frankland<br class="" style="">via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">To: Personal<br class="" style="">Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Sent: Monday, May 12,<br class="" style="">2014 10:06 PM<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Subject: Re:<br class=""
 style="">[PSUBS-MAILIST] Lights<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Hi Scott,<br class="" style=""> <br class="" style="">I just bought a some trustfire diving lights (there was<br class="" style="">a discussion on them a while ago).  Drilled and tapped a<br class="" style="">hole in the base, screwed in a blue globe gland and they<br class="" style="">were good to go.  Very easy to make and they are super<br class="" style="">bright.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Regards<br class="" style="">James<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">On 9 May 2014 20:18, swaters via Personal_Submersibles<br class="" style=""><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class=""
 style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style="">wrote:<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Thanks Emile!<br class="" style="">-Scott Waters<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Sent from my U.S.<br class="" style="">Cellular© Smartphone<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Emile van Essen via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style="">wrote:<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class=""
 style="">Scott,<br class="" style=""> <br class="" style="">Attached the drawing how I made my lamps. It is<br class="" style="">open source now..<br class="" style=""> <br class="" style="">I purchased the glass and reflectors from a<br class="" style="">German webshop .<br class="" style=""><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://shop.dev-pein.de/Selbstbau/Glaeser/" class="" style="">http://shop.dev-pein.de/Selbstbau/Glaeser/</a><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style="">Regards,<br class="" style="">Emile<br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Van:<br class="" style="">Personal_Submersibles [<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" class=""
 style="">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>]<br class="" style="">Namens via<br class="" style="">Personal_Submersibles<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Verzonden:<br class="" style="">donderdag 8 mei 2014 1:06<br class="" style="">Aan: Personal<br class="" style="">Submersibles General Discussion<br class="" style="">Onderwerp: Re:<br class="" style="">[PSUBS-MAILIST] Lights<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Thanks<br class="" style="">Emile,<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">I<br class="" style="">have a lathe. Do you have any designs for light housings?<br class="" style="">Thank for the link. I may go that route if I can't get<br class="" style="">my housings to stop<br class="" style="">leaking.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br
 class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Thanks,<br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Scott<br class="" style="">Waters <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">--------<br class="" style="">Original Message --------<br class="" style="">Subject: Re:<br class="" style="">[PSUBS-MAILIST] Lights<br class="" style="">From: Emile van Essen<br class="" style="">via Personal_Submersibles<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style="">Date: Wed, May 07, 2014 11:24 am<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">To: "'Personal Submersibles General<br class="" style="">Discussion'"<br class=""
 style=""><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Scott,<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">I made lamp housings for a while. But now I<br class="" style="">think it is better to purchase lampheads for technical scuba<br class="" style="">diving.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.gralmarine.com/#!mainlightseng/cyrv" class="" style="">http://www.gralmarine.com/#!mainlightseng/cyrv</a><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br
 class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> If you own a small lathe you can make them<br class="" style="">yourself.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Regards, Emile<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Van:<br class="" style="">Personal_Submersibles [<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" class="" style="">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>]<br class="" style="">Namens swaters<br class="" style="">via Personal_Submersibles<br class=""
 style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Verzonden:<br class="" style="">dinsdag 6 mei 2014 22:10<br class="" style="">Aan: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Onderwerp:<br class="" style="">[PSUBS-MAILIST] Lights<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Does anyone<br class="" style="">have a source for underwater pressure rated "can"<br class="" style="">lights or light housings?<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Mine took<br class="" style="">on some water during the test.
 Amount of light was great,<br class="" style="">just need better housings.<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Thanks,<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Scott<br class="" style="">Waters<br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br class="" style="">Sent from<br class="" style="">my
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