<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Do you have a problem with your neighbours Douglas?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>You could have fun with that in the keys, firing it out to sea.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Alan</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue',
Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 3, 2014 5:25 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gantry lift<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2737624879"><div><div dir="ltr">Scott, you probably won't find this little story of significant relevance or importance in your case, but... <div><br clear="none"></div><div>I've been working on a cannon project for the last few years (on and off) building a civil war siege mortar with an 8 inch bore, but that uses the carriage design of the 13"
seacoast mortar. The barrel weighs in at exactly 1012 lbs. and the base at around 1300 lbs. for a total of well over a ton. Our tractor won't lift that much, so dad and I found ourselves building a gantry on the cheap! </div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Mobility wasn't much of an issue for us because all we needed to do was lift up and set down on the deck of a flatbed after we backed it under the gun. So we built two stanchions from 10 foot 6X6's and spanned them 10 feet across with a 4X6 box channel 3/8" thick. We bought steel end caps for the 6X6 stanchions (to keep them from splitting) and put a tripod like leg arrangement on each stanchion for stability. To keep the beam from falling off the top of the stanchions we screwed a piece of wood into either side of the top of each leg that stuck up past the beam to sandwich it in. We wrapped a chain around the middle of the box channel and hooked a cheapie "2-ton" hoist onto the chain. BANG! Done for under $500. It worked in a pinch but I put the 2-ton in quotes because 1 ton was almost too much for this cheapie chinese thing. We have since upgraded to a true 2-ton hoist that I got off a friend of mine. Our cheapie hoist
would occasionally "slip" and even if you weren't having a picnic under the mortar it was still nerve racking. Point being: splurge on a really nice hoist. ~ Douglas S. </div>
</div><div class="yiv2737624879gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2737624879gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:53 PM, swaters <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote class="yiv2737624879gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv2737624879yqt8993702126" id="yiv2737624879yqt67990"><div><div>I didn't think of that. I will put down some plate steel.</div><div class="yiv2737624879"><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott Waters</div>
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</font><div><font size="3">Scott,</font></div>
<div><font size="3">It just occurred to me that the load bearing capacity of your
floor slab needs to be considered as well. Each of the four wheels of the
gantry has a contact area of not much more than 1 sq. in. You
might need to put something down over the area where the gantry will be when
it's under load in order to spread the load out. Otherwise you might end
up with a cracked floor. It might be a needless concern, but
I've seen several instances where slabs have been cracked and
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<div>In a message dated 4/2/2014 11:37:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
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</font><div>Haha. Good advice Alec. I just bought the 5 ton one from Harbor freight.
I'll get my wife Katy to put it up for me. She works out. Haha.</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Scott Waters</div>
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<div dir="ltr">The one that broke was a 2 ton Harbor Freight. I now use a 3 ton
and its been fine. They also have a 5 ton, which I would suggest for a K350.
These things are cheap and there is little price difference between them, but
the're really heavy and I like taking the hoist down when not needed, to get
all the chain out of the way. If you use a 5 ton, you will probably want to
leave it in place because it weights about 80 lbs. I can reach up with the 3
ton hoist and click it onto the crane, but it weighs 50 lbs so is getting near
my limit. Which all goes to prove that if you have a K350 instead of a K250,
you'll have to spend more time at the gym.
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<div>Best,</div>
<div><br clear="none">Alec</div></div>
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<div class="yiv2737624879gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:40 AM, swaters <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com" ymailto="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div>Ok. Cool. Thanks Steve. Alec, what was the hoist you had that broke on
you?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Scott Waters</div>
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<div>Scott, I just bought a generic trolley and hoist (Harbor Freight). The
trolley needs to fit your beam size (mine was adjustable) and I chose
ratings over what I expected. <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> I didn't considered an electric
vs. manual hoist at the time but you might add that to your
considerations.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Steve<br clear="none"></div>
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<div class="yiv2737624879gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:53 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com" ymailto="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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</span><div>I just purchased a gantry lift on craigslist in Texas. It doesn't
have a trolley or chain hoist though. I started looking on the internet
and there is a huge range of trolleys and chain hoists. Does anyone have a
suggestion what to get and where to get it?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Scott
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