<DIV style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;"><DIV>What about if you want to keep your sub in a slip in a marina, most of the marinas require insurance for your boat.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Brian<BR><BR>--- MerlinSub@t-online.de wrote:<BR><BR>From: "Carsten Standfuß " <MerlinSub@t-online.de><BR>To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] insurance<BR>Date: 27 Mar 2014 22:48 GMT<BR><BR>
<FONT face="Courier New" size="2">Thats right. If you make bad saftey
precautions or a mistake.. <BR><BR>But if you make no mistake and he
just wash
overboard and battered in pieces by the propeller<BR></FONT>- and later
his
lawer comes with funny arguments, like "there is no railing all
around on
your submarine and my client was not aware of it." <BR><BR>In that
case you
have a nice paper that your guest have notice that.. <BR>If somebody not
sign
this paper he will not tavel with the submarine.. <BR><BR>groet
Carsten<BR><BR>
<BR>"Emile van Essen" <emile@airesearch.nl> schrieb:
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 12pt;">But anyway passenger have to sign a paper that
a submarine is a potential dangerous machine and they take the trip on
there
own risk.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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</P><P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 12pt;">Doing this makes no sense. If a accident is related to
bad safety precautions or a big mistake by the pilot, you have a
problem
anyway..</SPAN></FONT>
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</P><P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 12pt;">Regards, Emile</SPAN></FONT>
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</DIV></P><P><B><FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><SPAN style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Van:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><SPAN style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;">
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<B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">Namens </SPAN></B>"Carsten Standfuß "<BR>
<B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">Verzonden:</SPAN></B> donderdag 27 maart 2014
18:11<BR>
<B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">Aan:</SPAN></B> Personal Submersibles General
Discussion<BR>
<B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">Onderwerp:</SPAN></B> Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST]
insurance</SPAN></FONT><DIV></DIV>
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</P><P><FONT face="Courier New" size="2"><SPAN style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 10pt;">All SL classe subs have a insurance. <BR>
<BR>
Nessesary if you try to carry passengers for money. <BR>
<BR>
The lawer of the children of a 90 years old passenger with a deadly
heardattack
on his birthday travel<BR>
in your sub will strip you to nothing if you have no insurance. <BR>
<BR>
Euronaut has no class but a P&I insurance due to the owners
good
network in the shipbuilding industry. <BR>
And maybe due to the fact that the owner work as naval architect and
time to
time for a classification society..<BR>
</SPAN></FONT>But anyway passenger have to sign a paper that a submarine
is a
potential dangerous machine and they take the trip on there own risk.
<BR>
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But why you want to insure? The insurance will only cover the damage the
sub do
to others. <BR>
I dont think that you sub will do major damage to others. Such a
minimum
insurance will cost you about 4000-5000 USD a year. <BR>
A full insurance in all directions will cost you maybe 10 times more.
<BR>
<BR>
And if teh sub sinks it will be much cheaper if you raise it by
yourself.
Just in case you survife.. <BR>
<BR>
For transport on a road you can insure the boat just as cargo or
Motorboat. <BR>
The insurance will not see a special risk in that. And for storage it
should be
the same. <BR>
<BR>
vbr Carsten<BR>
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"hank pronk" <hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca> schrieb: <DIV></DIV>
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</DIV></DIV></P><P style="background: white;"><FONT color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN style="color: black; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I
have made an attempt to buy insurance for my sub. I contacted my
insurance broker that I deal with for my business as well as my daughter
who is
an insurance broker. It is not possible unless the sub is
certified. I was only looking for insurance to cover loss during
storage
and during transport. I was only looking for a set amount to
cover
my actual costs. </SPAN></FONT>
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</DIV></P><P style="background: white;"><FONT color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN style="color: black; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">My
next attempt will be adding cargo insurance through my business and
maybe my
home insurance can be modified.</SPAN></FONT>
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</DIV></P><P style="background: white;"><FONT color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN style="color: black; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Does
anyone have insurance on a sub here?</SPAN></FONT>
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</DIV></P><P style="background: white;"><FONT color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN style="color: black; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Hank</SPAN></FONT>
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