<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>So the 60" sphere is why you need a big motor!</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Will anyone fit in the tube compartment once you put in reinforcing rings or is that</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>for other equipment?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I
noticed there are only one set of ballast valves either side & are wondering if there is </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>the potential for the sphere section to descend first & a bubble to be trapped in the back section.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I remember seeing a submarine stuck nose down that had to be pulled out of the water because</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>of that reason & also
probably because any further air to correct it went straight out the ballast water inlet.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Hope that makes sense. Sorry about all the questions, I'm intrigued with the design.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Alan</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;
font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Brian Cox <brian@ojaivalleybeefarm.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:40 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Electircal System<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv5723809552"><div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>I need to remove that diesel motor from my page ( it went to the scrap yard) I have a 60 dia Sphere attached to a 26" diameter tube x 8' long which will ride in the trough of my ferro
structure. Conning tower will be at top of sphere. The thing will probably be around 6 tons ( dry weight) by the time I'm done with it. I'm just going to start off with battery power but I fully intend to put a 28kW DC diesel generator in ( I have a space reserved !) but that may have to wait till next year. </div><div> </div><div>I was going to have different configuration but with the conical section that was necessary the length became too long so I have opted for a sphere. </div><div> </div><div>Brian <br clear="none"><br clear="none">--- alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">From: Alan James <alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com><br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Electircal System<br clear="none">Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 19:28:11 -0800 (PST)<br
clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv5723809552yqt8423151506" id="yiv5723809552yqt77245"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Hi Brian,</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>looked at your project page & am a bit confused.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>Are you still using the diesel motor? & is the electric motor going in the hull & turning the </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>propeller shaft of the diesel motor?</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>Also does the concrete exostructure incorporate ballast tanks or are they going to be attached </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0,
0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>to it? What are the dimensions of the pressure hull.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>Regards Alan</span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Brian Cox <brian@ojaivalleybeefarm.com><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:01 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Electircal System<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div><br clear="none"><div><div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Lower
RPM and a lot of start up torque. <br clear="none"></div><div>This page has some additional motors with other
voltages:</div><div> </div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/hpevs-ac12-motor-conversion-kit-en-2-3-4.html">http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/hpevs-ac12-motor-conversion-kit-en-2-3-4.html</a></div><div> </div><div>Brian<br clear="none"><br clear="none">--- vbra676539@aol.com wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">From: vbra676539@aol.com<br clear="none">To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Electircal System<br clear="none">Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:44:38 -0500 (EST)<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><font color="black" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"></font><div><font size="3">Why such low voltage on a motor this size? Those kinds of amps are going to take weld cables to manage.</font>
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<div>Actually this one might be better, lower RPM</div>
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<div>Think I may have found a motor with an rpm curve that could fit the bill ! Going to talk to the golf cart folks tomorrow !</div>
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<div>Cool,I know anything above 36 Volts can be problematic as far as getting accidently zapped. But with the controllers they have now I could run a 48 volt AC induction motor from a DC power source. That would be nice as far as smooth control capability and also I could run the motors in mineral oil and would not have to worry about any brushes. However the rpm may be a problem unless I have some type of gear reduction.</div>
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<div><font size="3">Delta did 6000+ dives with a hull grounded 48 volt system without problem. Just saying.....</font></div>
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<div> I'm considering a 48 volt system for my motors, is that too high of voltage as far as safety goes for a sub ?</div>
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