<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Heh, I'd emailed Hank off list offering the loan of an "auto surfacer" for his depth test. It's a device that blows your ballast when either a timer reaches it's setting or water is detected in the bilges. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Alec<br><br><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Alan James <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hi Hank,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>It's Alan not Alec. I believe Alec did have some sort of system. He might</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>comment when he wakes up. I think I've heard of a second line being used to</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span>open an air tank valve to blow the tanks. You would need a valve with a handle</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>on the air line.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>You would't want to be on top of the sub when it hit the surface.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Another thought is that if you used the electronic system you could have an </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px;
font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>electronic water sensor that additionally operated the system in case there was </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>a substantial leak.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Alan</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:
HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 6, 2014 4:45 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nuytco visit<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv5489379921"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size:
12pt;"><div><span>Alec,</span></div><div><span>Thank you, that is fantastic, exactly what I need. It is frightening spending so much time and money and letting it just sink away on a line. I will give you a call tomorrow after supper your time.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yiv5489379921yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="yiv5489379921yqt4500601752" id="yiv5489379921yqt09867"><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 8:34:00 PM, Alan James <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv5489379921y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5489379921"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Hank,</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>I'm jealous of your visit to Nuytco, well done.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>I have a few random ideas of what you could do for your back up system;</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>If you had solenoid valves on
the air lines to your ballast tanks, then it would</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>be very easy to do. But that might cost you a few hundred & may be a problem</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>adding in retrospectively. A cheaper alternative may be buying 2 electric car door openers</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Heavy-Duty-Power-Door-Lock-Actuator-Motor-12-volt-For-Car-Door-Locks-Pair-/181311393943">http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Heavy-Duty-Power-Door-Lock-Actuator-Motor-12-volt-For-Car-Door-Locks-Pair-/181311393943</a><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>& fit them so they can open the ballast
valves slightly. If they aren't gutsy enough you could buy a couple of cheap linear actuators.Then buy a cheap electronic 12V DC timer. Like this one.</span></div><div class="yiv5489379921yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1391655187426_44" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span></span></div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/SINOTIMER-wholesale-Digital-Programmable-12V-DC-Timer-Switch-Control-Free-Shipping/108414_628368568.html">http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/SINOTIMER-wholesale-Digital-Programmable-12V-DC-Timer-Switch-Control-Free-Shipping/108414_628368568.html</a><br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">& wire it up. Make sure it's moisture proofed. Alternatively I don't see why you couldn't use a mains power timer if you have one.</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">I take no responsibility if Gamma is
lost.</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Regards Alan</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div class="yiv5489379921yqt5835071126" id="yiv5489379921yqt42960"><div dir="ltr"> <div class="yiv5489379921hr" style="margin:5px 0px;padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px;"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion
<<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:06 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nuytco visit<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv5489379921y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv5489379921"><div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><div>While I wait for warmer weather to deep test my Gamma sub, I decided to drive out to Vancouver and visit Dr Nuytten and see all the wonderful subs. Dr Nuytten was kind enough to spend the better part of the morning showing me DW's and some mature subs as well. I had a great time listening to fascinating stories and seeing how the big boys do things. </div><div>Thank you Dr
Nuytten.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I plan to haul my barge to Slocan lake
where the water depth is 970 feet in a week or so. I will lower Gamma with a steel cable and retrieve it 1hr later. I would like a back up, some way for a timer to tell Gamma it is time to come home. Any ideas would help, I have never tried putting a backup
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