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<DIV><FONT size=3>Hey Hank,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Glad to hear you had an opportunity to drive to Vancouver and
call on Dr. Phil. That's quite a drive, but a bit warmer there. Is
Slocan Lake about six hours drive for you?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Do you have any plans for data logging during Gamma's tea bag
test such as internal temp and presure?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Jim</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 2/5/2014 10:09:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,
alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Hi Hank,</SPAN></DIV>
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Alan not Alec. I believe Alec did have some sort of system. He
might</SPAN></DIV>
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when he wakes up. I think I've heard of a second line being used
to</SPAN></DIV>
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an air tank valve to blow the tanks. You would need a valve with a
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the air line.</SPAN></DIV>
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would't want to be on top of the sub when it hit the surface.</SPAN></DIV>
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thought is that if you used the electronic system you could have
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water sensor that additionally operated the system in case there
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substantial leak.</SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
hank pronk <hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Personal Submersibles General
Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, February 6, 2014 4:45
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
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<DIV><SPAN>Alec,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Thank you, that is fantastic, exactly what I need. It is
frightening spending so much time and money and letting it just sink away on a
line. I will give you a call tomorrow after supper your
time.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Hank</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT size=2 face=Arial>On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 8:34:00
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<DIV><SPAN>Hank,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: HelveticaNeue,; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><SPAN>I'm jealous
of your visit to Nuytco, well done.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: HelveticaNeue,; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><SPAN>I have a few
random ideas of what you could do for your back up system;</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: HelveticaNeue,; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><SPAN>If you had
solenoid valves on the air lines to your ballast tanks, then it
would</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: HelveticaNeue,; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><SPAN>be very easy
to do. But that might cost you a few hundred & may be a
problem</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: HelveticaNeue,; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><SPAN>adding in
retrospectively. A cheaper alternative may be buying 2 electric car door
openers</SPAN></DIV>
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them so they can open the ballast valves slightly. If they aren't gutsy enough
you could buy a couple of cheap linear actuators.Then buy a cheap electronic
12V DC timer. Like this one.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: HelveticaNeue,; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">& wire it up.
Make sure it's moisture proofed. Alternatively I don't see why you couldn't
use a mains power timer if you have one.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: HelveticaNeue,; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">I take no
responsibility if Gamma is lost.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: HelveticaNeue,; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">Regards Alan</DIV>
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<DIV>While I wait for warmer weather to deep test my Gamma sub, I decided to
drive out to Vancouver and visit Dr Nuytten and see all the wonderful
subs. Dr Nuytten was kind enough to spend the better part of the morning
showing me DW's and some mature subs as well. I had a great time
listening to fascinating stories and seeing how the big boys do things.
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<DIV>Thank you Dr Nuytten.</DIV>
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<DIV>I plan to haul my barge to Slocan lake where the water depth is 970 feet
in a week or so. I will lower Gamma with a steel cable and retrieve it
1hr later. I would like a back up, some way for a timer to tell Gamma it
is time to come home. Any ideas would help, I have never tried putting a
backup together.</DIV>
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