<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top">My pleasure Steve<br/><br/>Sonar imaging is a science discipline within itself as well as both fun and practical. I used to paint wrecks on a simple fish finder using bearings on landmarks pre-GPS, fun and challenging. After GPS it became a snap.<br/><br/>I want the capability too even though my visibility here in Florida ranges 25' -100'. At those ranges it's pretty much a luxury.<br/><br/>Looking forward to seeing your K250 up and running.<br/><br/><br/>Joe<a href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad</a></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_">
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<td valign="top"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Joe, thanks for the feedback.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">It is funny how posting an idea will all of a sudden opens your eyes to other solutions : )<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Based on Alec's comment I can see that for my 4 hour operational requirement I could potentially just utilize the laptop or tablet's internal battery (maybe have to also use a spare battery) vs. the power suck of trying to generate 120V AC. This way I would only need to supply the sonar head and I could do this easily with a small AGM battery.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div>Steve<br clear="none"></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Joe Perkel <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">josephperkel@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yqt9992120396" id="yqt10327"><div><div style="font-size:14pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;"><br clear="none">
<div><span>Steve,</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:18.6667px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:18.6667px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;">
I've briefly looked at this issue for myself down the road.</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:18.6667px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;">
<span></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:18.6667px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;"><span>Hyperdrive, </span><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.hypershop.com/HyperDrive/iUSBport/">http://www.hypershop.com/HyperDrive/iUSBport/</a> makes a wireless USB port device for iPad, I have one. Perhaps that would make the tablet interface doable.</span></div>
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<span>If PC is a must, Panasonic Tough-book is reduced scale, and both shock and water resistant. It's the laptop of choice for EMS personnel. It is pricey as a result. Perhaps it
can be sourced from a guy named "Bear" at the local pawn shop?! :)<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="none"></font></span></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:18.6667px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;">
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Saturday, February 1, 2014 8:54 AM, Steve McQueen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:psub101@indy.rr.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">psub101@indy.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div>
<div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Alec, yes. I agree. My initial approach is basic old school. The tech support guys at Teledyne are very helpful and I'm sure it has been done before. Good feedback ( I wasn't sure that email made it to the thread).<br clear="none">
</div>Thanks.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Private <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:alecsmyth@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">alecsmyth@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div><div>Hi Steve,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I find a laptop hard to imagine in a 250 just due to space constraints. I think the first thing I'd look at is whether one could interface the sonar to a tablet instead. Note that an iPad, for instance, has a 12 hour battery so you would save space, amps, and money by getting rid of the DC-AC converter.</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Best,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Alec<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div><div><div><br clear="none">On Jan 31, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Steve McQueen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:psub101@indy.rr.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">psub101@indy.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>All, thought I would share an
exercise I am noodling through. As an off shoot to developing my K-250
electrical layout I am looking at what it would take to add (later) a
sonar system based on a 12V DC system. Thought I could get some
feedback as well as provide an "example" for others considering a
similar scenario.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div>On the Psubs site under Submitter/Steve McQueen/K-250 Sonar Electrical you can find my initial version of a wiring diagram.
In this example I used easily found components as a base reference.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>My current self inflicted design constraints:<br clear="none"></div>
</div>Implementation of the Teledyne BlueView M-900 2D imaging sonar <br clear="none"></div>Utilization of laptop for viewing (vs. separate processor with remote monitor)<br clear="none">Dedicated 12V DC sourced (separate from main 12V DC bank)<br clear="none">
</div>4 hours of run time<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>I am sure my initial design can
be made more efficient. The initial design has 2 parallel 12V/150 Ah
batteries which are larger and heavier than I'd like (22x4x11 inches or
560x110x280 mm and 89.3 lbs or 40.5 kg). This design gives 3.9 hrs of
run time <br clear="none">
<br clear="none">For me the design goal is to reduce battery footprint (size/weight)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Any comments? Anyone have sonar based on 12V DC?<div><div><img></div>
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