<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Jim,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>5 men, 5 days in a sub on a diet of baked beans,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Goshh they were tough in those days.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Alan</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:
HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "jimtoddpsub@aol.com" <jimtoddpsub@aol.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> personal_submersibles@psubs.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 31, 2014 8:33 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] MIdget subs at D-day<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8253397096"><div><font color="black" size="2" face="arial">
</font><div><font size="3">Phil,</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Your D-day story left me curious to know more; found this: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/midget_submarines_d_day.htm">http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/midget_submarines_d_day.htm</a></font></div>
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<div><h1 class="yiv8253397096pageTitle">Midget Submarines and D Day</h1><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv8253397096c3524" href=""></a>
<div style="margin:0px;"><font face="arial"><font size="3"><font face="Arial">X-boats – midget-submarines – were used at <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="Opens internal link in current window" target="_blank" href="http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/d-day_index.htm">D-Day</a> by the British to ensure that their landings went well. The crews of the X-boats were made up of <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="Opens internal link in current window" target="_blank" href="http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/special_forces_in_world_war_two.htm">commandos</a> from the elite Combined Operations Pilotage and Reconnaissance Parties, formed on the orders of <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="Opens internal link in current window" target="_blank" href="http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/lord_louis_mountbatten.htm">Lord Louis</a> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="Opens internal link in current window" target="_blank"
href="http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/lord_louis_mountbatten.htm">Mountbatten</a>. After the disaster that befell the Allies at <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="Opens internal link in current window" target="_blank" href="http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/dieppe_1942.htm">Dieppe</a>, everything was done to ensure success on June 6<sup>th</sup> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="Opens internal link in current window" target="_blank" href="http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/1944_world_war_two.htm">1944</a>.</font></font> </font></div>
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<div style="margin:0px;"><font face="arial"><font size="3"><font face="Arial">Five days before June 5<sup>th</sup> – the original date for D-Day – two X-boats sailed from Hayling Island, Hampshire. Each midget submarine had a crew of five men on board. It would be their task to guide in the British landing craft at <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="Opens internal link in current window" target="_blank" href="http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/sword_beach.htm">Sword Beach</a>. The fear was that the landing craft might drift towards rocks that skirted the specific landing points at Sword and it was the task on the submarine crews to ensure the landing craft stayed on course.</font></font> </font></div>
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<div style="margin:0px;"><font face="arial"><font size="3"><font face="Arial">The space in each of the X-boats was extremely limited. Each submarine was just 51 feet in length and a maximum of 6 feet in width. The crew could not stand up once inside the X-boats. The crews took it in turns to have a four-hour sleep in the battery compartment of the X-boats and their diet was mainly tea and baked beans. </font></font> </font></div>
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<div style="margin:0px;"><font face="arial"><font size="3"><font face="Arial">Once the crews had sailed to the beaches they simply had to lay in wait and vitally, ensure that they were not spotted by the Germans. If one had been spotted, it is quite possible that the ‘game’ would have been up in terms of a surprise landing – even if <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="Opens internal link in current window" target="_blank" href="http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/adolf_hitler.htm">Hitler</a> was convinced that the Allies would land in the Pays de Calais. The expertise of the crews was such that they watched unnoticed via periscope German soldiers playing football on Sword Beach just one day before the planned landings.</font></font> </font></div>
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<div style="margin:0px;"><font face="arial"><font size="3"><font face="Arial">However, both submarines had to surface at 22.00 to listen to the BBC news broadcast at that time. While they were submerged neither crew could hear the news. It was vital that they did as a secret message was going to be broadcast on one of the bulletins that would tell them that the landings were on and that they had to be ready to do what was required of them. </font></font> </font></div>
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<div style="margin:0px;"><font face="arial"><font size="3"><font face="Arial">During one of these broadcasts, the crews learnt that the landings were going to be delayed by a day. This put them in a quandary as they did not know if they had enough oxygen on board to last them. When it was felt possible to do so, the crews would surface to allow the men to have a quick walk about on deck and to take in some fresh air.<span style=""> </span></font></font> </font></div>
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<div style="margin:0px;"><font face="arial"><font size="3"><font face="Arial">The 22.00 BBC news on June 5<sup>th</sup> informed both crews via a secret message that D-Day was about to start. They now knew that they had to be on duty at 04.00 on June 6<sup>th</sup>. They first knew the landings had started when a huge fleet of bombers flew above them to bomb German positions along the coastline. The two crews knew that it would not be much longer before the landing crafts arrived and it would their task to ensure they sailed on the right course to Sword Beach. The landing craft homed in on the lights that came from the two X-boats. Casualties at Sword Beach were minimal when the sheer magnitude of the raid is taken into account. </font></font></font></div>
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<div>Jon . . ahem, ahem, (jes’ clearin’ ma throat) Nuytco has<font color="#000000"> always</font> been at the UI submersible track – year after year.
This year we’ll be talking about our 2013 work surveying and videoing the WW2
Normandy Invasion fleet, most of which is still underwater. This was for History
Channel and will air this year – the 70th anniversary of Juneau,Omaha, Sword,
etc. The shots of the Sherman tanks laying higgeldy piggeldy (sp?) all over the
bottom are incredible. Jeff Heaton, Nuytco’s senior ops manager had the unusual
pleasure of using ‘Aquarius’ to take down a 92 year old – survivor of the
invasion who was last there in 1944 aboard a small submarine, two days before
the invasion - to set lighting on the bottom to guide in the troop carriers (the
original schedule called for a night landing) – the story of he and his crew
lying doggo on the bottom for nearly two days offshore of the landing site as
weather changes kept re-arranging the schedule – specially as they had to
surface at night to get communication on the changing plans – well, it’s
quite a story! </div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:13 PM</div>
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I think others will agree, the majority of
attendees are there for ROV related sessions. I have only ever attended
the manned vehicle sessions and never experienced an issue of not having a
seat. The convention center and session rooms are not small...we're not
talking PSUBS size event here. The technical session rooms have seats
for...I'm guessing...200 people? And there is plenty of "standing room" if
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ABS reps usually attend because they
have discussions about proposed rule changes...can't recall the gentleman's name
at the moment. I don't think I've seen a sub manufacturer other than Will
Kohnen (seamagine) whom is the coordinator of the manned vehicle sessions at the
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You'll have a good time there. It's worth the trip and
no doubt there should be some psubbers in attendance as
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<div>Hi,</div>
<div>I'm looking at going to the U.I. New Orleans convention in 10 days
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<div>particular attending the underwater vehicle technical sessions.</div>
<div>The registration fee entitles you to attend the technical sessions, so it
seems the numbers</div>
<div>at each session aren't restricted. They had 2,450 attendees <span style="font-size:10pt;">last year so I'm wondering whether</span></div>
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the session rooms. </span><span style="font-size:10pt;">Any experience with
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<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:helveticaneue,;"><span style="font-size:10pt;">from others who have attended these sessions? Also are
ABS or submersible manufacturers </span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:helveticaneue,;"><span style="font-size:10pt;">represented there?</span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:helveticaneue,;"><span style="font-size:10pt;">Have tried calling U.I. a couple of times but haven't
been lucky.</span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:helveticaneue,;"><span style="font-size:10pt;">Thanks for the heads up on the conference
Douglas.</span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:helveticaneue,;"><span style="font-size:10pt;">Hank, from G.L. rules...</span><span style="font-size:10pt;">The CO2 pressure </span><span style="font-size:10pt;">needs to be kept below 0.01 bar</span></div>
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