<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>That would be great.</div><div>Thanks</div><div>Dan H.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 24, 2014, at 7:11 PM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Dan</span></div><div><span>If you like I can take a picture of the valve so you can see how they modified it.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Friday, January 24, 2014 3:31:55 PM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5157509906"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Dan,</span></div><div><span>My valve is a 6 bank double acting 24v solenoid valve. The valve started it's life as a standard valve, then the solenoids were encased in a bolt on box then oil filled and pressure compensated with a bladder(hose) I also made a hose cutter so I can jettison the arm. I once built an arm that ran off convertible top hyd pumps. You can use one pump per function and it is a pump/valve all in one. They cost about 150 bucks on ebay and come with the cylinders. That is the way to go in my opinion. you buy four pumps and your done, the pumps just run in reverse for opposite oil flow,,,very simple. Oh ya I tested one and it gave me 1,200psi</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yiv5157509906yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:
HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="yiv5157509906yqt1713291106" id="yiv5157509906yqt60197"><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Friday, January 24, 2014 3:15:56 PM, Dan H. <<a href="mailto:jumachine@comcast.net">jumachine@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv5157509906y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5157509906"><style></style><div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">To all.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">A few years back I was working on
a manipulator design but shelved it for lack of a suitable small multi
function hydraulic valve. I was looking for a small manually operated
valve. I was going to use air cylinders for their compact design and
reasonable pressure, plastic hoses rated to around 800 PSI and a multi section
manual operated control valve. I didn't want to design a build a valve
too. Has any one found something I missed? Maybe a gallon or less /
minute flow at maybe 300 to 600 PSI is what I was thinking about. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hank, The arm you have is a beautiful design.
What are you using for control valves?</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks, Dan H.</font></div>
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<div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
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<div>Alan,</div>
<div>I've seen the discussion. The smallest sub I know of with a manipulator
on board is the Deepworker. No exfra tanks there. Metacentric vs CG works in
all directions. Yes, you get movement and no it's not a problem in my
experience. I did operate the bigger subs but also smaller ones, to include
Aquarius, briefly in a DW, plus three different K-boats, so speak with some
experience. You put everything you imagine on a small sub, you get a big sub.
In any case, It's probably best to think of a psub as a work in progress. Get
the boat done, go play, scratch head, get more work done, go play, scratch
head......and so it goes.</div>
<div>Vance</div>
<div><br clear="none">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div class="yiv5157509906yqt7343715389" id="yiv5157509906yqt67378"><div><br clear="none">On Jan 24, 2014, at 3:20 AM, Alan James <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>>
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<div>Vance,</div>
<div>a couple of people have mentioned lately the problem of the shifting
of</div>
<div>balance as you reach out with a manipulator & have talked about
countering it with</div>
<div>trim tanks. Is it a big deal if you go nose down, tail up? Possibly
more of a problem working on a </div>
<div>vertical face than picking something up off the bottom. </div>
<div>Some of our subs will be a lot smaller than <span style="font-size: 10pt;">the working </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;">subs you were in so the problem would
be </span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">accentuated in our case.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Can you give us some of your experience on this
thanks & in your opinion is it worth messing</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">about with the trim while operating the
manipulator.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: transparent;">Alan</span><br clear="none"></div>
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