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it tomorrow and will post pictures when it back together.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yiv0828532680yahoo_quoted" id="yiv0828532680yui_3_13_0_ym1_6_1387330110894_6" style="display: block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div class="yiv0828532680ms__id784" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="yiv0828532680ms__id785" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="yiv0828532680yqt1359901400" id="yiv0828532680yqt59434"><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:21:09 AM,
"vbra676539@aol.com" <vbra676539@aol.com> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv0828532680y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0828532680"><div><font color="black" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"><font class="yiv0828532680Apple-style-span" size="3">Very nice indeed. It's what I figured to do. Glad to hear it is a working hypothesis.</font>
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<div><span>I had the fellow who works for me buff one of the mbt windows. he runs a small body shop in our off season, so he is a pro at buffing. I gave him the most beat up window in the lot. He brought it back to like new condition. There are a couple of deep scratches that are not worth worrying about. With water on both sides of the glass the scratches disappear. I a very confident the original port windows will be like new when he is finished with them. How nice is that</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:46:44 PM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div><span>Vance,</span></div>
<div><span>I am sure it will be fine, it makes sense that the motor will draw down with an increase of pressure acting on the shaft.</span></div>
<div><span>I am back to work on the manipulator now. It is nice to have a change.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, December 14, 2013 1:46:23 PM, Vance Bradley <<a href="mailto:Vbra676539@AOL.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Vbra676539@AOL.com">Vbra676539@AOL.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div>
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<div>Well, maybe a break in period will help, too.</div>
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<div><span>Hi Vance,</span></div>
<div><span>Yes it is linear, it is a very smooth and gradual. Everything spins freely. I may have a bit to much grease on my thrust bearing also. </span></div>
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<div><span>Hi Vance,</span></div>
<div><span>I did not
have it in the sub so it was not hooked up to the amp gauge. What do you mean by
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<div><span>Thank you, it only took me two tries to make the assembly and 5
tries to make the shaft. Rookie machinist and all. :-)</span></div>
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<div>Carsten,</div>
<div>Your friends in Hamburg wouldn't be happy with
the get wet solution.</div>
<div>As an after thought on my ambient, I put a AOP valve above my</div>
<div>head & through the dome. It works the opposite way round, so that if</div>
<div>I dive too quick & the hull doesn't equalise, I get water on my head.</div>
<div>The hull is equalised with divers regulators so better to get wet</div>
<div>than the regulator diaphragm rupturing. The manual operation of the</div>
<div>AOP let's me flood up to the top of the dome in an emergency exit,</div>
<div>as there may be too much force on the latches to open them with</div>
<div>air in the dome. </div>
<div>Alan</div>
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the valve open later on.<br clear="none"></i><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Yes, and if you dive with a open valve
you get wet<br clear="none">learn to close it and learn to read you "pre-dive" checklist.
<br clear="none"><br clear="none">:-O <br clear="none"><br clear="none">SL not required an blocking mechanism on the
hatch - just an <br clear="none">simple spring loaded automatic overpressure valve.
<br clear="none">Because of the automatic there is no need to block the hatch. <br clear="none">The air
sound of the working valve is a clear signal not to open the hatch.<br clear="none">The
function of the valve should be anyway mention in the written manual.
<br clear="none"><br clear="none">very best regards<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Carsten<br clear="none"></span></div>
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