<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Carl Stanley has a 30 yr old dome on his sub. The mbt window is also Plexi Glass G same as port windows. The mbt window was so bad you could not see through it.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:21:10 PM, Hugh Fulton <hc.fulton@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv4112702154"><style>#yiv4112702154 #yiv4112702154 --
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#yiv4112702154 </style><div><div class="yiv4112702154WordSection1"><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">A question for the experts. Is it acceptable to have old windows re-polished and then possibly annealed to restore them. I have 8 that are 25 years old and need to be replaced according to ABS etc.</span></div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">What is the official word on this. I note that the windows below were from an MBT rather than main windows. Chs Hugh</span></div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; border-image: none;"><div class="yiv4112702154yqt2031516253"
id="yiv4112702154yqtfd13833"><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>vbra676539@aol.com<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 16 December 2013 6:21 a.m.<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> personal_submersibles@psubs.org<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] G.L. summary Pressure Hull</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv4112702154yqt2031516253" id="yiv4112702154yqtfd84842"><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal"><span>Very nice indeed. It's what I figured to do. Glad to hear it is a working hypothesis. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154yqt2031516253" id="yiv4112702154yqtfd62756"><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span>Vance<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></div></div><div><div
class="yiv4112702154yqt2031516253" id="yiv4112702154yqtfd55419"><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>><br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">Sent: Sun, Dec 15, 2013 12:13 pm<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] G.L. summary Pressure Hull</span></div><div id="yiv4112702154AOLMsgPart_2_f86c66e9-685b-4dd8-933f-7d719839f9e4"><div><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Vance,</span></div></div><div><div
class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>I had the fellow who works for me buff one of the mbt windows. he runs a small body shop in our off season, so he is a pro at buffing. I gave him the most beat up window in the lot. He brought it back to like new condition. There are a couple of deep scratches that are not worth worrying about. With water on both sides of the glass the scratches disappear. I a very confident the original port windows will be like new when he is finished with them. How nice is that</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Hank</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span> </span></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:46:44 PM, hank pronk
<<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:</span><span></span></div></div><div><div id="yiv4112702154"><div><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Vance,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>I am sure it will be fine, it makes sense that the motor will draw down with an increase of pressure acting on the shaft.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>I am back to work on the manipulator now. It is nice to have a change.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Hank</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span> </span></div><div><div><div
id="yiv4112702154yqt08787"><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On Saturday, December 14, 2013 1:46:23 PM, Vance Bradley <<a href="mailto:Vbra676539@AOL.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Vbra676539@AOL.com">Vbra676539@AOL.com</a>> wrote:</span><span></span></div></div><div><div id="yiv4112702154"><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Well, maybe a break in period will help, too.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Vance<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPhone</span></div></div><div id="yiv4112702154yqt73477"><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span><br clear="none">On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:36 PM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Hi Vance,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Yes it is linear, it is a very smooth and gradual. Everything spins freely. I may have a bit to much grease on my thrust bearing also. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Hank</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span> </span></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On Saturday, December 14, 2013 1:26:10 PM, Vance Bradley <<a href="mailto:Vbra676539@AOL.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"
shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Vbra676539@AOL.com">Vbra676539@AOL.com</a>> wrote:</span><span></span></div></div><div><div id="yiv4112702154"><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Linear meaning a steady increase in demand in parallel to rising pressure. If you have a low rise with a sudden increase somewhere along the line then you may have a component not working as it should.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Vance</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span><br clear="none">Sent from my iPhone</span></div></div><div id="yiv4112702154yqt77955"><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span><br clear="none">On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:02 PM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Hi Vance,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>I did not have it in the sub so it was not hooked up to the amp gauge. What do you mean by linear.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Hank</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span> </span></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On Saturday, December 14, 2013 11:12:40 AM, Vance Bradley <<a href="mailto:Vbra676539@AOL.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:Vbra676539@AOL.com">Vbra676539@AOL.com</a>> wrote:</span><span></span></div></div><div><div id="yiv4112702154"><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>How much did your amperage increase at depth? Was the load increase linear?</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Vance<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPhone</span></div></div><div id="yiv4112702154yqt30099"><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span><br clear="none">On Dec 14, 2013, at 1:07 PM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div><div id="yiv4112702154"><div><div><div
id="yiv4112702154yui_3_13_0_ym1_6_1387044021305_5"><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>I just did a 1/2hr run on my new drive with the shaft tube full of water and under 500psi. The seal works perfectly and there is very little heat build up. I was surprised how much the motor pulls down after 200psi. I assume it is from the shaft pushing into the thrust bearing. Also I am running the motor on 12v because it spins to fast on 24 with no load.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Hank</span></div></div><div id="yiv4112702154yui_3_13_0_ym1_6_1387044021305_6"><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span> </span></div><div><div><div id="yiv4112702154yqt87099"><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:27:28 PM,
hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:</span><span></span></div></div><div><div id="yiv4112702154"><div><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Vance,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Thank you, it only took me two tries to make the assembly and 5 tries to make the shaft. Rookie machinist and all. :-)</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Hank </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span> </span></div><div><div><div id="yiv4112702154yqtfd69774"><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On Thursday, December 12, 2013
12:36:27 PM, Alan <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span><span></span></div></div><div><div id="yiv4112702154"><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Carsten,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Your friends in Hamburg wouldn't be happy with the get wet solution.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>As an after thought on my ambient, I put a AOP valve above my</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>head & through the dome. It works the opposite way round, so that if</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>I dive too quick & the hull doesn't equalise, I
get water on my head.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>The hull is equalised with divers regulators so better to get wet</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>than the regulator diaphragm rupturing. The manual operation of the</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>AOP let's me flood up to the top of the dome in an emergency exit,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>as there may be too much force on the latches to open them with</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>air in the dome. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Alan</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>
</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span><br clear="none">On 13/12/2013, at 7:33 AM, " " <<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a>> wrote:</span></div></div></div><div><table width="100%" class="yiv4112702154MsoNormalTable" style="width: 100%;" border="0" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" style="padding: 1.5pt; width: 100%;" rowspan="1" colspan="1"></td></tr></tbody></table><div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><i><span style="font-size: 14pt;">If you have an over-pressure valve handle obstructing the Alan</span></i><span style="font-size:
14pt;"></span></div></div><div id="yiv4112702154yqtfd74061"><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><i><span style="font-size: 14pt;">movement of the hatch latch handle, it would need to be</span></i><span style="font-size: 14pt;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><i><span style="font-size: 14pt;">spring loaded or you would create the problem of the possibility</span></i><span style="font-size: 14pt;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><i><span style="font-size: 14pt;">of diving with the valve open later on.<br clear="none"></span></i><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Yes, and if you dive with a open valve you get wet<br clear="none">learn to close it and learn to read you "pre-dive" checklist. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">:-O <br clear="none"><br clear="none">SL not required
an blocking mechanism on the hatch - just an <br clear="none">simple spring loaded automatic overpressure valve. <br clear="none">Because of the automatic there is no need to block the hatch. <br clear="none">The air sound of the working valve is a clear signal not to open the hatch.<br clear="none">The function of the valve should be anyway mention in the written manual. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">very best regards<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Carsten</span></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv4112702154yqtfd73887"><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div class="yiv4112702154MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br
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