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To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br>
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<div><span>Vance,</span></div>

<div><span>I had the fellow who works for me buff one of the mbt windows.  he runs a small body shop in our off season, so he is a pro at buffing.  I gave him the most beat up window in the lot.  He brought it back to like new condition.  There are a couple of deep scratches that are not worth worrying about.  With water on both sides of the glass the scratches disappear.  I a very confident the original port windows will be like new when he is finished with them.  How nice is that</span></div>

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<div><span>Vance,</span></div>

<div><span>I am sure it will be fine, it makes sense that the motor will draw down with an increase of pressure acting on the shaft.</span></div>

<div><span>I am back to work on the manipulator now.  It is nice to have a change.</span></div>

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<div>Well, maybe a break in period will help, too.</div>

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<div><br clear="none">On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:36 PM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>

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<div><span>Hi Vance,</span></div>

<div><span>Yes it is linear, it is a very smooth and gradual.  Everything spins freely.  I may have a bit to much grease on my thrust bearing also.  </span></div>

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<div>Linear meaning a steady increase in demand in
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<div><span>Hi Vance,</span></div>

<div><span>I did not
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<div>How much did your amperage increase at depth? Was the load increase
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<div><span>Thank you, it only took me two tries to make the assembly and 5
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<div>Your friends in Hamburg wouldn't be happy with
 the get wet solution.</div>

<div>As an after thought on my ambient, I put a AOP valve above my</div>

<div>head & through the dome. It works the opposite way round, so that if</div>

<div>I dive too quick & the hull doesn't equalise, I get water on my head.</div>

<div>The hull is equalised with divers regulators so better to get wet</div>

<div>than the regulator diaphragm rupturing.  The manual operation of the</div>

<div>AOP let's me flood up to the top of the dome in an emergency exit,</div>

<div>as there may be too much force on the latches to open them with</div>

<div>air in the dome. </div>

<div>Alan</div>

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<div><span><i>If you have an over-pressure valve handle obstructing 
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<div class="yiv3822689134ms__id2757" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><span><i>of diving with 
the valve open later on.<br clear="none"></i><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Yes, and if you dive with a open valve 
you get wet<br clear="none">learn to close it and learn to read you "pre-dive" checklist. 
<br clear="none"><br clear="none">:-O   <br clear="none"><br clear="none">SL not required an blocking mechanism on the 
hatch - just an <br clear="none">simple spring loaded automatic overpressure valve. 
<br clear="none">Because of the automatic there is no need to block the hatch. <br clear="none">The air 
sound of the working valve is a clear signal not to open the hatch.<br clear="none">The 
function of the valve should be anyway mention in the written manual. 
<br clear="none"><br clear="none">very best regards<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Carsten<br clear="none"></span></div>
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