<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>The public use has to do with trademarks and some copyrights. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Nov 19, 2013, at 8:52 PM, "Phil Nuytten" <<a href="mailto:phil@philnuytten.com">phil@philnuytten.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><title>E-Mail Software 6.0</title>
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<div>Alan</div>
<div>RE: cost of sub certification - If you do all the test documentation, plan
approval docs, FEA’s, Von Mises, construction drawings, electronic schematics,
piping diagrams and sub-system drawings, yourself – figure about $50,000.</div>
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<div><font size="3" face="Calibri">Phil</font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri">BTW, putting a patentable idea out in the ‘public
domain’ most certainly doesn’t safeguard against anyone copying it – in fact, it
may well be the exact opposite! ‘Public Disclosure’ may well prohibit the
ability to engage the patent process, period. (Not trying to chuck cold
water, but check the US patent act and that’s what you’ll find . . . if you
intend to disclose prior to patenting, then at least apply for a ‘Provisional
Patent’ – dirt cheap, and protects you for 12 months or so )</font></div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com" href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">Alan James</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:04 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">Personal Submersibles General
Discussion</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] G.L. Submersible
Classification</div></div></div>
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<div><span>Hi Jon,</span></div>
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may have more knowledge on this but I think that</span></div>
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you have put your idea out in the public domain</span></div>
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may be regarded as "prior art work" safe guarding you against</span></div>
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patenting your idea.</span></div>
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anybody have a guess at what classification for a boat similar</div>
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a K350 would cost in fees to an agency, aside from all the additional</div>
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in getting together all the documentation etc.</div>
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<font size="2" face="Arial"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> Jon
Wallace <<a href="mailto:jonw@psubs.org">jonw@psubs.org</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General
Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:22
AM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
G.L. Submersible Classification<br></font></div>
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<div class="yiv3778867400moz-cite-prefix"><br clear="none">And nobody better steal
my idea until I patent it.<br clear="none">
<div id="yiv3778867400yqtfd81824" class="yiv3778867400yqt8774440583"><br clear="none">On 11/26/2013 2:26 PM, <a class="yiv3778867400moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> wrote:<br clear="none"></div></div>
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<div><br clear="none">I am pretty sure a electric driven MBT valve based on a
handheld drilling machine motor will be not accept as equal solution. <br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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