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I don't have any issues with it as long as the discussion remains
objective. I have been reminded that we have a working
relationship with ABS that we've worked hard to build up over the
years and don't want to jeopardize. However, we would certainly
entertain and approve of a working relationship with GL as well,
and any others that might want a working relationship with PSUBS.
I would also note that we do have links to GL on our website right
now at <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://WWW.PSUBS.ORG">WWW.PSUBS.ORG</a> -> Resources & Reference ->
Guidelines & Standards -> Germanischer Lloyd AG (hopefully
still current).<br>
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I've never personally looked at certification as "us vs them".
Kittredge used both ABS and Lloyd's, as has Nuytco I believe. In
fact, Kittredge also used Nippon once. I believe the choice
usually comes down to financials rather than one set of rules
being better than another.<br>
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If you think there's a propensity for the discussion to get
critical of a particular certifying authority let's have it on the
member-only list instead of the public list.<br>
<br>
Jon<br>
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On 11/25/2013 6:33 PM, Alan James wrote:<br>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12.800000190734863px;">Hi,</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12.800000190734863px;">I've just
started going through the Germanic LLoyds rules for
classification</div>
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12.800000190734863px;">of manned
submersibles, with view to building as close as possible to
them.</div>
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12.800000190734863px;"><a
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href="http://www.gl-group.com/pdf/GL_Rules_MannedSubmersibles.pdf"
target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">http://www.gl-group.com/pdf/<wbr>GL_Rules_MannedSubmersibles.<wbr>pdf</a><br>
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<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12.800000190734863px;">Is anyone
interested in me summarizing the rules as I go along?</div>
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12.800000190734863px;">There are a few
people in the group with GL classification experience who</div>
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12.800000190734863px;">may want to chip
in & keep an eye on what I'm saying in case my
understanding</div>
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12.800000190734863px;">is not quite
right. Also any variations from ABS that people pick up on</div>
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12.800000190734863px;">would be
interesting to know.</div>
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12.800000190734863px;"><span
style="font-size: 12.800000190734863px;">I am hopeful this
will generate discussion in some areas.</span><br>
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<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12.800000190734863px;"><span
style="font-size: 12.800000190734863px;">Jon if you don't
like this idea email me</span><img moz-do-not-send="true"
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