<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I am sure you could push the pressure to 150psi.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, November 9, 2013 4:08:28 PM, Jon Wallace <jonw@psubs.org> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8539552808"><div>
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That's pretty close...I calculated 524 feet with 125psi internal
and suspect you could push it to 600 feet. But that would be the
limit so you'd want to build in a safety factor or risk failure at
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On 11/9/2013 12:42 PM, hank pronk wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div><span>Hi Rick,</span></div>
<div><span>I have used 20lb propane tanks for buoyancy. I think
they give 35lb buoyancy and if you pressurize them to 125psi
I am sure they could go to 600 ft. Test one first.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday,
November 9, 2013 10:16:57 AM, Land N Sea
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<div>Hi David,</div>
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<div>any idea what the two floats provide in
buoyancy?</div>
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<div>Rick</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="seaquestor@gmail.com" href="mailto:seaquestor@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:seaquestor@gmail.com">David
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 08,
2013 8:25 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
buoyancy</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Rick, here is a quote on
the floats I just got. The 551 float is
$10.80 ea., less 10% per carton of 18.
The 364 float is $6.00 ea., less 10% per
carton of 72. I will be ordering some of
each, but not enough for 18 or 72. </div>
<div dir="ltr">David Colombo</div>
<div class="yiv8539552808gmail_quote">On Nov
7, 2013 12:02 PM, "Smyth, Alec" <<a href="mailto:Alec.Smyth@covisint.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Alec.Smyth@covisint.com">Alec.Smyth@covisint.com</a>>
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<div class="yiv8539552808MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi Rick,</span></div>
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<div class="yiv8539552808MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If you need
some cheap buoyancy that will go
to significant depths, I’d
recommend fishing floats you can
get here: <a href="http://trawlworks.com/floats.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">http://trawlworks.com/floats.htm</span></a></span></div>
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<div class="yiv8539552808MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I guarantee
you’ll find uses for them
afterwards, whether it’s as
emergency release buoys, mooring
buoys, or whatever.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv8539552808MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Best,</span></div>
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Alec</span></div>
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[PSUBS-MAILIST] buoyancy</span></div>
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<div class="yiv8539552808MsoNormal"><span>I
was thinking of testing
both my battery pods to
600’ before I weld them to
the hull so that if there
are any issues with
leakage I would still be
able to get them on a
lathe. I added two vents
per pod with O rings so
that I can push/suck air
across the batteries while
charging so there are a
couple of more places for
leaks to occur. I did the
calks' and they weigh in
at 295 LBS. each dry with
a negative displacement of
around 30 lbs. I was
hoping that they would
barley float with no
batteries in them so that
I could weight them just
slightly negative for ease
of launching and
retrieving but that’s not
the case. I need to come
up with about 30 lbs. of
positive buoyancy and
don’t have any syntactic
foam so I figured I could
strap some 4” X 4”, on
them to achieve that. This
may be a dumb question but
does anyone happen to know
the per foot buoyancy of a
4” X 4” in sea water? If
not I’ll head down to the
ocean and start testing.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv8539552808MsoNormal"><span>I
also mentioned the other
week about my desire to
omit the plate that is
welded to the pressure
hull and battery pod of a
K-350 and was wondering if
any one could comment on
that.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv8539552808MsoNormal"><span>Rick</span></div>
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