<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>No I spoke too soon Hank, we just lost 2 races.</div><div>I think we should get back to the subject of submarines.</div><div>Alan<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 22/09/2013, at 10:22 PM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">I think Alan is a proud fan :-)<var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var><br class="yui-cursor" style="RIGHT: auto"></span></div>
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<div id="yiv1631504911">Ha Ha<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: "Alan" <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>><br>Sent 9/22/2013 11:14:29 AM<br>To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hydraulics<br><br>
<div>What Americas cup catamarans Brian? </div>
<div>Do you mean the Emirates Team NewZealand boat that is 8-3 up against Oracle Team U.S.A.?</div>
<div>Alan<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br>On 21/09/2013, at 1:26 PM, "brian" <<a href="" rel="nofollow">brian@ojaivalleybeefarm.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>Have you guys seen those Catamarans in the America's cup ? Quite amazing. They use the hydraulics to move the foils up and down as well as moving the "sail" or more correctly the wing. It's all they can do to keep up the hydraulic pressure for the constant adjustments that have to be made.<br><br>Brian<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: "Alan" <<a href="" rel="nofollow">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>><br>Sent 9/21/2013 2:25:24 AM<br>To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a href="" rel="nofollow">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hydraulics<br><br>
<div>Just did a quick google & there are hydraulic rim bicycle brakes as well as the disc brakes.</div>
<div>These look like they could be possibly adapted.</div>
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<div><br>On 19/09/2013, at 9:34 PM, hank pronk <<a href="" rel="nofollow">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div><span>Hi Alan,</span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><span>After some more thought, I have changed my mind about bicycle brakes. The problem is the caliper has a rather large piston area. This gives you better brake force, but it would hurt you when you put water pressure against it. You want a small piston like a hydraulic clutch in a car. I would use the clutch parts because they would also be aluminum and much tougher. You would need to remove the piston and machine an o-ring glove because the normal seal is designed to push in one direction only.</span></div>
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<div><span>H Alan,</span></div>
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<div class="yiv1631504911y_msg_container"><br>Hi Brian,<br>I've wondered about this also.<br>I was looking at the hydraulic brakes they have on bicycles now days &<br>wondering if you could adapt them for functions like releasing emergency<br>bouys or similar. The manual hydraulics they have on boats, like steering units<br>are pretty expensive. Would be good to find something of suitable material<br>off the shelf hat could be used.<br>Alan<br>.<br>Sent from my iPad<br><br>On 16/09/2013, at 5:28 AM, "brian" <<a href="" rel="nofollow">brian@ojaivalleybeefarm.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> I wonder if those human powered hydraulics could have an application for our boats, like the cats in the America's cup.<br>> <br>> Brian<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br>> <a href="" rel="nofollow">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br>> <a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="" rel="nofollow">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>
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