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[Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles]

Welcome! I started with my own design, and my advice would be not to do
that. I find that I build every component three times. The first time, it
doesn't work. The second, it works but doesn't look nice or is too fragile.
The third time it works and looks OK. So, extrapolating that very
scientific theory suggests that building your own design will take three
times as long as building to plans, in addition to the design time itself.
One way to use your "pre-sub-build" time is to build small components that
will eventually be used in any sub you build, whether to plans or not.
There's small stuff that doesn't take a big welder or investment, but which
takes time.

The other fundamental suggestion is to keep on the lookout for used subs
for sale. They don't come up for sale often, but if you have some patience
they do. Whether you buy a partially built sub or a completed one, believe
me you are buying a project every time in the sense there will ALWAYS be
stuff to develop and improve. But it will save you a bundle relative to new
construction, both in time and money. And even if you bought a KIttredge
sub, it can make a perfectly good 2-person and be highly maneuverable. I
think my old sub, Snoopy, is for sale and is a 2-person Kittredge. At
least, she was for sale a few months ago and I haven't heard of anyone
buying her.

Best,
Alec








On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 12:12 AM John Bussard via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Saying hi and introducing myself as a new poster on the list here.  I live
> in CA, have zero engineering background, but have gotten hooked looking at
> all of these projects.  I don’t have the time or space to start a project
> in the next couple years, which gives me some time to figure out if I can
> develop the skills to make a go of this, as I’m not much of a project guy
> at the moment.
>
> In thinking about how to proceed, I wanted to gain an understanding of how
> folks go about their respective designs: I’d like to come up with something
> “of my own” but understand that to have some calculation/measurement skills
> that are foreign to me.  Is it enough to do some focused reading in Busby
> to get the ball rolling?  Criteria I think I’m interested in
> 1) Multi-person (realistically that means 2 I think…)
> 2) Less interested in depth as opposed to ability to (if possible) be
> maneuverable, some endurance.  I’m most caught by the R300 as a concept, to
> frame the discussion.
>
> Those are my thoughts, if there’s anyone near San Diego who has time to
> talk about their project I’d love to meet y’all, either way I look forward
> to talking with folks here.
>
> In closing, the first message that came through for me was regarding the
> death of Phil Nuytten: Sad to learn of it and my thoughts are with friends
> and family here and throughout- I know what it’s like to lose special group
> members, and it’s never easy.
>
> Thanks to all,
> John Bussard
> San Diego, CA
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