[PSUBS-MAILIST] Membership??

Wed Jul 21 08:58:06 EDT 2021

I'll just add to this - designing and building to the ABS Rules for actual classification is a tedious and horrendously expensive process. While most personal submersibles are not classed for this reason, it is generally recommended that you adhere to the spirit of the rules, if not the letter, as much as is reasonably practicable. Certainly, you should download and familiarize yourself with them, and then if you are going to deviate, make sure that those deviations are informed conscious decisions, as opposed to a consequence of ignorance.

Welcome.

Sean

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On Jul. 21, 2021, 06:48, Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles wrote:

> Quinn, welcome aboard. Always glad to have another Texas Psubber. Best way to climb the learning curve on Psub design is to track down a copy of "Manned Submersibles" by R. Brank Busby. While the book is a bit old, having been written in 1976, it is still a great resource on understanding required ship systems and calculations required for a psub. Another great book is [Rules for Building and Classing Underwater Vehicles, Systems and Hyperbaric Facilities 2021 (eagle.org)](https://ww2.eagle.org/content/dam/eagle/rules-and-guides/current/special_service/7_rulesforbuildingandclassingunderwatervehiclessystemsandhyperbaricfacilities_2021/uwvs-rules-jan21.pdf) There has never been a fatality of a ABS classed psub.
>
> Contact me offline at cliffordredus at sbcglobal.net to arrange a visit if your are interested in seeing a small psub.
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> Cliff
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> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 02:19:29 AM CDT, quinn via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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> Hi Alan,
> I’m in Texas, USA. A long way from NZ!
> Right now I’d say the sub I’d like to build is in the gestational/ideation phase: 2-3 person, ~150m capable, 8-10 hour operational duration. There are a some 30-60m lakes within a couple hours of me but I’d eventually like to do ocean exploring as well.
> I have some rudimentary drawings I’ve made over the last year or so that I’m just beginning to throw math at, but nothing remotely finalized yet. I’d like to increase my very basic knowledge in CAD/3D design to better facilitate the process.
> Believe it or not I’ve actually never been on Facebook and it’s not something I’m willing to engage in, so email chain it is then! I’ll try not to pester the group too much!
> Thanks for the quick response, Alan!
>
> Quinn
>
>> On Jul 20, 2021, at 23:05, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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>> 
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>> Hi Quinn,
>> Congratulations on finding us.
>> I am not the administrator, just a regular on the site.
>> Yes the discussion part of the web site is pretty well dead. It should be removed or maybe kept as a resource only. I messaged there when I first joined years ago and fortunately someone directed me on to this email forum.
>> We are operating a bit more on Facebook.
>> Under Personal Submersibles Organization
>> I tried but couldn't copy the link. If you have
>> trouble finding it let me know.
>> As for fees, I'm not sure what's happening with them. I believe they weren't compulsory.
>> I have paid them in the past but haven't had a reminder for ages..
>> You couldn't come to a better place if you are building a home made sub. Plenty of experience from members from around the Globe.
>> What part of the World are you living in? (I am from New Zealand) and what sort of sub were you wanting to build?
>> Alan
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>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 03:18:17 PM GMT+12, quinn via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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>> Hello,
>>
>> I signed up for a psubs membership and paid the $35 fee through paypal on 29/05/21. When I tried to use the UserID provided on the paypal receipt (UserID:162221957946037)to sign in to the membership page on the psubs websiteI received errors stating that “The information you provided does not match our records”.
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>> After numerous attempts at following the given instructions to sign in I emailed the website contacts, jon at psubs.org and publicrelations at psubs.org.
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>> I never received a response.
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>> I was going to initiate a fraudulent chargeback via paypal tonight when I searched the website again and discovered this possibly-alive email discussion group (the online forums being all but dead as far as I can tell).
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>> If anyone is out there, I’m interested in building my own submersible. I know it’s an achievable goal and there are like-minded individuals who have succeeded at this. The website being somewhat barren and dated, is psubs still an active organization? Would membership be beneficial in such a pursuit? If so, how does one contact the administrators to resolve issues? Are there resources available to novice members beyond an email chain archive? Obviously I have a lot of questions and don’t want to clutter a private email group with endless basic queries.
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>> I hope this reaches someone out there. Thank you in advance for your response,
>>
>> Quinn
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