[PSUBS-MAILIST] Life boats

Rich T via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Mon Aug 10 18:28:13 EDT 2020


Brian, thank you for your correspondence. Regarding the matter at hand, I
am less of an engineer and more of a general consultant/emissary in the
venture I described. The group of engineers is mostly comprised of STEM
students at Berkeley, and I can certainly arrange for a trailer to
transport the vessels to their storage and work facilities there. If the
oil company is willing to provide its own trailers, even better. However, I
failed to realize the vessel currently has no ability to submerge. Based on
your current knowledge of the vessels, do you think they can be converted
into submarines if a ballast tank system and whatnot are installed?

On Sunday, August 9, 2020, Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Yes, but you wouldn't have to get the distance exactly right. Just into a
> range.
>
> Sean
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On Aug. 9, 2020, 21:06, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
> I think you would still need some sort of brake on the reel with the
> counter weight method, otherwise the counter weight would just keep
> traveling back to the sub.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
>
> From: "Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles" <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Life boats
> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:46:10 +0000
>
> I don't know if this is possible in a sub-deployed embodiment, but when I
> run a downline buoy for diving, I hang a snatch block under the buoy, and
> size the line to be somewhat longer than the water depth, with a
> counterweight on one end (typically, anchor weight is 60 lbs, and
> counterweight is 15 lbs). This acts to pull the buoy to be vertically in
> line with the anchor, while still allowing for tidal height change and sea
> state.
>
> With a deployed buoy, you could do something similar at the buoy end, so
> that once the buoy reached surface any additional deployed line would be
> pulled down by a counterweight and keep the buoy in position. You can also
> shackle the counterweight back to the main line, so that it follows it
> down, and you have the entire length of that line as the compensation
> range, and only need to reel in line when the counterweight hits the sub,
> which you could verify visually if the land point was covered by a viewport.
>
> Sean
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On Aug. 9, 2020, 09:21, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Great video !    Do you just go up as far as you can on the beach and then
> wait for the tide to go out ?
>
> I'm curious as to how other sub mad men handle the float buoy.  It seems
> you would want it just at the surface with not a lot of slack in the line.
>  I was thinking to have a "brake" on the reel so I could stop it when it
> gets to the surface and to stop it free wheeling.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
>
> From: Rich T via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.
> org>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Life boats
> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 00:00:27 -0400
>
> Yes. I have enormous use for them. I am located in
> Los Angeles as well. May I come view the vessel in person? I am organizing
> a group of engineers in California who are interested in tinkering with
> burgeoning stealth technology for submarines, which the government may
> actually pay for if patents are secured. A vessel like this would be
> perfect for such experiments.
>
> On Saturday, August 8, 2020, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
> good to hear you are still alive!
> Thanks for correcting my "American" I am sure I must say things that
> are misinterpreted all the time. I do that with women!
> My other thought was to make a large ambient sub out of them. I am sure
> Tim Novak would be thinking " underwater habitat".
> Alan
>
> On 9/08/2020, at 2:56 PM, Jim via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Alan,
> You were the  first person who came to mind when I saw this thread. I knew
> you would come up with some inventive purpose for it and probably wonder if
> there was a way you could get your hands on it.
>  “Caravan” has a very different meaning in the other parts of the
> English-speaking world than it does in the United States. The term we would
> use is “camper.”  Caravan brings to mind a string of camels.
> Jim T.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 8, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> 
> Hey Brian,
> just stick it on a trailer & use it as a caravan.
> Have seen an Australian floating caravan before!
> Alan
>
> On 9/08/2020, at 8:54 AM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All,             A friend of mine who works in the Oil industry
> offshore is offering me two of these lifeboats for free.  Anyone have a use
> for them?
>
> Brian
>
>
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