[PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)

Fri Feb 23 06:46:01 EST 2018

Im sure he was, It was just the way you said he suddenly died.  Sorry,
just made me chuckle.  Friday humour.

On 23 February 2018 at 11:37, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> James,
> The old fellow was an inspiration and a real character.  He loved working on
> the boat and probably didn't care if he sailed it. I know I enjoy building
> my subs more than diving them.
> Hank
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2018, 4:13:15 AM MST, James Frankland via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
>>"sadly he died and the boat was scrapped. "
>
> Sorry, but that last comment really cheered up my Friday!
>
>
> On 22 February 2018 at 22:22, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>> To Old?
>> I had the pleasure of meeting an elderly gentleman that was building a
>> sailboat.  I was driving down the road one afternoon and and noticed a
>> steel
>> hull protruding from a shop.  Of coarse I had to investigate, I knocked on
>> the door to the house and this little tiny OLD fellow comes out and I ask
>> him about the boat.  He was in absolute heaven that someone was interested
>> in his project.  He gave me the grand tour and told me he was 86 or so, I
>> can't really remember.  He told me he was going to sail around the world
>> in
>> this boat.  So clearly your never to old, sadly he died and the boat was
>> scrapped.
>> Hank
>>
>> On Thursday, February 22, 2018, 2:59:17 PM MST, Alec Smyth via
>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hah, Ian, you described me! I too have been following this particular sub
>> forever, she's my hands-down favorite along with Lula, which of course is
>> no
>> coincidence. I grant she's a relatively complex design because being
>> diesel
>> electric and having kit like an on-board compressor. If you needed to get
>> that diesel out and to a mechanic I'm not sure if it would even be
>> possible
>> to pull it all the way through the sub and out the opening for the bow
>> dome.
>> Maybe you'd have to cut the hull in half temporarily, like the Navy does
>> when they have to service something too large to come out through a hatch.
>> But I certainly don't think you would be buying any design flaws. On the
>> contrary, she's a masterpiece. And the complexity of the diesel comes with
>> a
>> 200 mile range, so there's justification. I see no problem at all with the
>> boat, and if you flip through all the way to the photos of the new
>> aluminum
>> trailer, it looks to me like she could be launched from a good boat ramp
>> without craning in. I think the reason for the low price is just that
>> she's
>> not the right sort of sub for a luxury yacht, and is too daunting for
>> members of the general public. But don't worry, I've known you for many
>> years and can attest you are not in any way representative of the general
>> public.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Alec
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 4:23 PM, irox via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've been in love with the S101 for almost 2 decades, I've looked into
>> buying it before, following it's journey/ownership over that time.
>>
>> But, I get this sense of dread that I would be buying somebody else's
>> problems, complexity, design decisions (and possibly design flaws),
>> deferred
>> maintenance, misuse, etc..  Or maybe that's because I'm spending more time
>> fixing used cars these days than working on my K250 restomod...  Only if I
>> was younger and less experienced (or jaded). :-)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles
>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs. org>
>>>Sent: Feb 22, 2018 6:08 AM
>>>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.
>>> org>
>>>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)
>>>
>>>would be nice to see it in our community and in action.
>>>
>>>On 22 February 2018 at 14:08, James Frankland
>>><jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com > wrote:
>>>> Hank, why don't you make them a silly offer.  $30K or whatever you
>>>> think.  You never know they may take it.  Probably not now, but when
>>>> they really need to get rid of it..
>>>>
>>>> On 22 February 2018 at 12:00, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>>> Alan,  the price is great considering what it would cost to build from
>>>>> scratch.  I still think it is to much, only because one day it will
>>>>> need
>>>>> to
>>>>> be sold.  The fact that they can't sell it at 80K  speaks to the market
>>>>> value.  It is only worth what someone will pay for it.
>>>>> Hugh raises a very good point about it being a sea sick machine.  I
>>>>> think a
>>>>> big lake is a perfect place for it.
>>>>> Hank
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 9:46:16 PM MST, T Novak via
>>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm, my budget keeps under $15000cdn.  No joy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-
>>>>> bounces at psubs.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Alan via Personal_Submersibles
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:57 PM
>>>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs. org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of
>>>>> pictures)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hank,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim talks about his plans for an underwater habitat. Something like
>>>>> that
>>>>> would
>>>>>
>>>>> be great for the price & it would be mobile! Maybe you could go halves!
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/02/2018, at 3:40 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Perfect for a huge lake, park in a marina under cover.  It can be
>>>>> launched
>>>>> from the trailer and towed behind my 5 ton.  The only thing I don't
>>>>> like
>>>>> is
>>>>> the depth rating.  Still, if the price drops to my comfort zone, I will
>>>>> buy
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 6:19:26 PM MST, Hugh Fulton via
>>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Crane in, crane out, time to get to diving spot and back, no surface
>>>>> facility.  Too big for super-yachts. Too small to be stable in a sea.
>>>>> Sea
>>>>> sickness rolling etc. Submersibles need to be transportable or else
>>>>> submarines.  Ask Carsten.  At least his is Autonomous.  High metacentre
>>>>> can
>>>>> be hell for rolling even in a slight sea.  That is my best guess.  Hugh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-
>>>>> bounces at psubs.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2018 1:45 PM
>>>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of
>>>>> pictures)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder what seems to be the problem?  Maybe sea keeping issues?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- personal_submersibles at psubs. org wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.
>>>>> org>
>>>>> To: emile via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs. org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of
>>>>> pictures)
>>>>> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 16:54:03 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>>
>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have spoken with the sales people a couple times and I am getting the
>>>>> feeling that they have no idea what they have there.  They are learning
>>>>> that
>>>>> it is very difficult to sell an uncertified sub.  It also seems like
>>>>> the
>>>>> sub
>>>>> has a bad reputation from when it belonged to Sea Shepard.  I think the
>>>>> sub
>>>>> is fantastic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 1:24:39 AM MST, emile via
>>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Corrosion or ageing of the domes could be a reason for the de-rating.
>>>>>
>>>>> Br, Emile
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>>>> Van: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-
>>>>> bounces at psubs.org]
>>>>> Namens irox via Personal_Submersibles
>>>>> Verzonden: woensdag 21 februari 2018 5:39
>>>>> Aan: personal_submersibles at psubs. org
>>>>> Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For a "ready to dive" diesel electric, $80K sounds like a deal:
>>>>> http://www.boattrader.com/ listing/1987-marlin-32-diesel-
>>>>> electric-s101-manned
>>>>> -submarine-102153353
>>>>> Lots of pictures.  I like submarine pictures.
>>>>>
>>>>> More here as well:
>>>>> https://www.popyachts.com/ submersible-vessels-for-sale/
>>>>> marlin-32-diesel-elec
>>>>> tric-s101-manned-submarine-in- vero-beach-florida-40442
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems it has been de-rated from 1000ft operational depth to "max
>>>>> operating
>>>>> depth is 300 feet".
>>>>> Although the wording they use doesn't make perfect sense.  For example,
>>>>> it
>>>>> claims the collapse depth is 1250ft, but I think they are confused with
>>>>> test
>>>>> depth (per ABS, 125% of operational depth).
>>>>> The other ABS claims don't match with my understand of ABS rules
>>>>> either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps it can still be rated to 1000ft.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless, this is a beautiful craft, and I am enjoying the (~500?!)
>>>>> pictures.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>  Ian.
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