[PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)

Fri Feb 23 06:37:34 EST 2018

 James,The old fellow was an inspiration and a real character.  He loved working on the boat and probably didn't care if he sailed it. I know I enjoy building my subs more than diving them.Hank
    On Friday, February 23, 2018, 4:13:15 AM MST, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:  

 >"sadly he died and the boat was scrapped. "

Sorry, but that last comment really cheered up my Friday!

On 22 February 2018 at 22:22, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> To Old?
> I had the pleasure of meeting an elderly gentleman that was building a
> sailboat.  I was driving down the road one afternoon and and noticed a steel
> hull protruding from a shop.  Of coarse I had to investigate, I knocked on
> the door to the house and this little tiny OLD fellow comes out and I ask
> him about the boat.  He was in absolute heaven that someone was interested
> in his project.  He gave me the grand tour and told me he was 86 or so, I
> can't really remember.  He told me he was going to sail around the world in
> this boat.  So clearly your never to old, sadly he died and the boat was
> scrapped.
> Hank
>
> On Thursday, February 22, 2018, 2:59:17 PM MST, Alec Smyth via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hah, Ian, you described me! I too have been following this particular sub
> forever, she's my hands-down favorite along with Lula, which of course is no
> coincidence. I grant she's a relatively complex design because being diesel
> electric and having kit like an on-board compressor. If you needed to get
> that diesel out and to a mechanic I'm not sure if it would even be possible
> to pull it all the way through the sub and out the opening for the bow dome.
> Maybe you'd have to cut the hull in half temporarily, like the Navy does
> when they have to service something too large to come out through a hatch.
> But I certainly don't think you would be buying any design flaws. On the
> contrary, she's a masterpiece. And the complexity of the diesel comes with a
> 200 mile range, so there's justification. I see no problem at all with the
> boat, and if you flip through all the way to the photos of the new aluminum
> trailer, it looks to me like she could be launched from a good boat ramp
> without craning in. I think the reason for the low price is just that she's
> not the right sort of sub for a luxury yacht, and is too daunting for
> members of the general public. But don't worry, I've known you for many
> years and can attest you are not in any way representative of the general
> public.
>
> :)
>
> Alec
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 4:23 PM, irox via Personal_Submersibles
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
> I've been in love with the S101 for almost 2 decades, I've looked into
> buying it before, following it's journey/ownership over that time.
>
> But, I get this sense of dread that I would be buying somebody else's
> problems, complexity, design decisions (and possibly design flaws), deferred
> maintenance, misuse, etc..  Or maybe that's because I'm spending more time
> fixing used cars these days than working on my K250 restomod...  Only if I
> was younger and less experienced (or jaded). :-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs. org>
>>Sent: Feb 22, 2018 6:08 AM
>>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.
>> org>
>>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)
>>
>>would be nice to see it in our community and in action.
>>
>>On 22 February 2018 at 14:08, James Frankland
>><jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com > wrote:
>>> Hank, why don't you make them a silly offer.  $30K or whatever you
>>> think.  You never know they may take it.  Probably not now, but when
>>> they really need to get rid of it..
>>>
>>> On 22 February 2018 at 12:00, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>> Alan,  the price is great considering what it would cost to build from
>>>> scratch.  I still think it is to much, only because one day it will need
>>>> to
>>>> be sold.  The fact that they can't sell it at 80K  speaks to the market
>>>> value.  It is only worth what someone will pay for it.
>>>> Hugh raises a very good point about it being a sea sick machine.  I
>>>> think a
>>>> big lake is a perfect place for it.
>>>> Hank
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 9:46:16 PM MST, T Novak via
>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm, my budget keeps under $15000cdn.  No joy.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-
>>>> bounces at psubs.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Alan via Personal_Submersibles
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:57 PM
>>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs. org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of
>>>> pictures)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hank,
>>>>
>>>> Tim talks about his plans for an underwater habitat. Something like that
>>>> would
>>>>
>>>> be great for the price & it would be mobile! Maybe you could go halves!
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22/02/2018, at 3:40 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Perfect for a huge lake, park in a marina under cover.  It can be
>>>> launched
>>>> from the trailer and towed behind my 5 ton.  The only thing I don't like
>>>> is
>>>> the depth rating.  Still, if the price drops to my comfort zone, I will
>>>> buy
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Hank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 6:19:26 PM MST, Hugh Fulton via
>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Crane in, crane out, time to get to diving spot and back, no surface
>>>> facility.  Too big for super-yachts. Too small to be stable in a sea.
>>>> Sea
>>>> sickness rolling etc. Submersibles need to be transportable or else
>>>> submarines.  Ask Carsten.  At least his is Autonomous.  High metacentre
>>>> can
>>>> be hell for rolling even in a slight sea.  That is my best guess.  Hugh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-
>>>> bounces at psubs.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2018 1:45 PM
>>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of
>>>> pictures)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what seems to be the problem?  Maybe sea keeping issues?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- personal_submersibles at psubs. org wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.
>>>> org>
>>>> To: emile via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs. org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of
>>>> pictures)
>>>> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 16:54:03 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I have spoken with the sales people a couple times and I am getting the
>>>> feeling that they have no idea what they have there.  They are learning
>>>> that
>>>> it is very difficult to sell an uncertified sub.  It also seems like the
>>>> sub
>>>> has a bad reputation from when it belonged to Sea Shepard.  I think the
>>>> sub
>>>> is fantastic.
>>>>
>>>> Hank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 1:24:39 AM MST, emile via
>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs. org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>
>>>> Corrosion or ageing of the domes could be a reason for the de-rating.
>>>>
>>>> Br, Emile
>>>>
>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>>> Van: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-
>>>> bounces at psubs.org]
>>>> Namens irox via Personal_Submersibles
>>>> Verzonden: woensdag 21 februari 2018 5:39
>>>> Aan: personal_submersibles at psubs. org
>>>> Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For a "ready to dive" diesel electric, $80K sounds like a deal:
>>>> http://www.boattrader.com/ listing/1987-marlin-32-diesel-
>>>> electric-s101-manned
>>>> -submarine-102153353
>>>> Lots of pictures.  I like submarine pictures.
>>>>
>>>> More here as well:
>>>> https://www.popyachts.com/ submersible-vessels-for-sale/
>>>> marlin-32-diesel-elec
>>>> tric-s101-manned-submarine-in- vero-beach-florida-40442
>>>>
>>>> Seems it has been de-rated from 1000ft operational depth to "max
>>>> operating
>>>> depth is 300 feet".
>>>> Although the wording they use doesn't make perfect sense.  For example,
>>>> it
>>>> claims the collapse depth is 1250ft, but I think they are confused with
>>>> test
>>>> depth (per ABS, 125% of operational depth).
>>>> The other ABS claims don't match with my understand of ABS rules either.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it can still be rated to 1000ft.
>>>>
>>>> Regardless, this is a beautiful craft, and I am enjoying the (~500?!)
>>>> pictures.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>  Ian.
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