[PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)

Thu Feb 22 16:23:35 EST 2018

I've been in love with the S101 for almost 2 decades, I've looked into buying it before, following it's journey/ownership over that time.

But, I get this sense of dread that I would be buying somebody else's problems, complexity, design decisions (and possibly design flaws), deferred maintenance, misuse, etc..  Or maybe that's because I'm spending more time fixing used cars these days than working on my K250 restomod...  Only if I was younger and less experienced (or jaded). :-)

-----Original Message-----
>From: James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>Sent: Feb 22, 2018 6:08 AM
>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)
>
>would be nice to see it in our community and in action.
>
>On 22 February 2018 at 14:08, James Frankland
><jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com> wrote:
>> Hank, why don't you make them a silly offer.  $30K or whatever you
>> think.  You never know they may take it.  Probably not now, but when
>> they really need to get rid of it..
>>
>> On 22 February 2018 at 12:00, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>> Alan,  the price is great considering what it would cost to build from
>>> scratch.  I still think it is to much, only because one day it will need to
>>> be sold.  The fact that they can't sell it at 80K  speaks to the market
>>> value.  It is only worth what someone will pay for it.
>>> Hugh raises a very good point about it being a sea sick machine.  I think a
>>> big lake is a perfect place for it.
>>> Hank
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 9:46:16 PM MST, T Novak via
>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmmm, my budget keeps under $15000cdn.  No joy.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Alan via Personal_Submersibles
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:57 PM
>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hank,
>>>
>>> Tim talks about his plans for an underwater habitat. Something like that
>>> would
>>>
>>> be great for the price & it would be mobile! Maybe you could go halves!
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/02/2018, at 3:40 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Perfect for a huge lake, park in a marina under cover.  It can be launched
>>> from the trailer and towed behind my 5 ton.  The only thing I don't like is
>>> the depth rating.  Still, if the price drops to my comfort zone, I will buy
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Hank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 6:19:26 PM MST, Hugh Fulton via
>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Crane in, crane out, time to get to diving spot and back, no surface
>>> facility.  Too big for super-yachts. Too small to be stable in a sea.   Sea
>>> sickness rolling etc. Submersibles need to be transportable or else
>>> submarines.  Ask Carsten.  At least his is Autonomous.  High metacentre can
>>> be hell for rolling even in a slight sea.  That is my best guess.  Hugh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles
>>> Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2018 1:45 PM
>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder what seems to be the problem?   Maybe sea keeping issues?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
>>>
>>> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>> To: emile via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 16:54:03 +0000 (UTC)
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> I have spoken with the sales people a couple times and I am getting the
>>> feeling that they have no idea what they have there.  They are learning that
>>> it is very difficult to sell an uncertified sub.  It also seems like the sub
>>> has a bad reputation from when it belonged to Sea Shepard.  I think the sub
>>> is fantastic.
>>>
>>> Hank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 1:24:39 AM MST, emile via
>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ian,
>>>
>>> Corrosion or ageing of the domes could be a reason for the de-rating.
>>>
>>> Br, Emile
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org]
>>> Namens irox via Personal_Submersibles
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 21 februari 2018 5:39
>>> Aan: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>>> Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Marlin s101 for sale $80k (lots of pictures)
>>>
>>>
>>> For a "ready to dive" diesel electric, $80K sounds like a deal:
>>> http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1987-marlin-32-diesel-electric-s101-manned
>>> -submarine-102153353
>>> Lots of pictures.  I like submarine pictures.
>>>
>>> More here as well:
>>> https://www.popyachts.com/submersible-vessels-for-sale/marlin-32-diesel-elec
>>> tric-s101-manned-submarine-in-vero-beach-florida-40442
>>>
>>> Seems it has been de-rated from 1000ft operational depth to "max operating
>>> depth is 300 feet".
>>> Although the wording they use doesn't make perfect sense.  For example, it
>>> claims the collapse depth is 1250ft, but I think they are confused with test
>>> depth (per ABS, 125% of operational depth).
>>> The other ABS claims don't match with my understand of ABS rules either.
>>>
>>> Perhaps it can still be rated to 1000ft.
>>>
>>> Regardless, this is a beautiful craft, and I am enjoying the (~500?!)
>>> pictures.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>   Ian.
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