[PSUBS-MAILIST] gear set
hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
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Thu Oct 26 17:37:03 EDT 2017
Ian,Sweet, that is perfect! What do you do with the printer normally?Hank
On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 12:51:40 PM MDT, irox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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Hi Hank,
done. At this point the gear generation is coded up (using somebody else's gear generation library), so it's just a matter of adjusting a couple of parameters.
See attached imagine.
Thanks, Ian.
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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
Sent: Oct 26, 2017 1:53 PM
To: irox via Personal_Submersibles
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] gear set
Hi Ian, I just measured the space I have and if you can make it so there are four bolt holes 1.75 inches apart when measured strait across from each other. ThanksHank
On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 11:26:15 AM MDT, irox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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Hi Hank,
see attached imagine. This one will weigh 44g at 100% in fill (27g at 20% in fill).
I find 3D printer is great from the point of view you can just design something and have a plastic version in your hand a few hours later.
Let me know if there are any other changes you'd like (I can put more 0.25" holes towards the rim, things like that).
Cheers! Ian.
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From: irox via Personal_Submersibles
Sent: Oct 26, 2017 8:41 AM
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Hi Hank,
sure, I can do that. Do you have a preference for a particular bolt pattern?
The big holes where an attempt at weight saving. Perhaps i can alternate big/small.
Cheers! Ian.
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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
Sent: Oct 26, 2017 6:56 AM
To: irox via Personal_Submersibles
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] gear set
Ian,Good you included a picture, the large gear is not secured to the shaft. The shaft turns freely through the gear. The gear is bolted to the hand, if you print the gear with small holes (1\4 inch) instead of large, I can use those holes to mount it, maybe the holes should be beefed up a bit. Thanks againHank
On Wednesday, October 25, 2017, 11:51:48 PM MDT, irox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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Hi Hank,
So,the 3" gear would weigh ~60g printed at 100% in fill (I'll print it at 20% in fill for speed, meaning it has an install structure, but with voids, weighing ~30g)the 1" gear would weigh ~15g printed at 100% in fill (I'll print it at 20% as well, weighing ~5g)
Top and bottom will be at least 1mm thick, side walls will be 0.8mm thick. I made the gears 0.5" thick, but here is a collar for the set screw which adds a bit of bulk/thickness too. If that's a problem it's easy to explore other designs.
I'll print them tonight and can mail them tomorrow if you like. Email me your mailing address at irox<at>ix.netcom.com.
Cheers! Ian.
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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
Sent: Oct 25, 2017 2:36 PM
To: irox via Personal_Submersibles
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] gear set
Ian,Thank you, if you want to print some then I can just keep building and allow for the size. The shaft for the big gear is 5\8 and the shaft for the small gear is 1\4 inch. I do not have a weight budget, just keeping at light as I can. The nice thing with plastic is the low density. In a perfect world the the large gear would be 3 inch dia and the small gear would be 1 inch.The thickness can be 1\2 inch giving it some extra strength. I can drill out the centre with my lathe. Thank youHank On Wednesday, October 25, 2017, 11:51:39 AM MDT, irox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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Hi Hank,
how much of a weight budget do you have for this item?
You mentioned a 0.5inch and 2.5inch gear early, this would give a shaft to shaft distance of 1.5", is that what you need?
I did a quick design (spent about 2 minutes on it) for a herringbone gear set matching that, with a 0.25" shaft size (and a set screw provision).
What gearing ratio range are you hoping for?
Do you care about the thickness?
I'm happy to finish the design and print it as an academic exercise, and mail it to you. No pressure to use it. I would print it PLA which might not be strong enough. But if it was working for you, it could be printed in ABS or Nylon.
Cheers,
Ian.
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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
Sent: Oct 25, 2017 4:25 AM
To: irox via Personal_Submersibles
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] gear set
Hi Ian,I am stuck on plastic for weight, but I am probably over thinking that. It is, after all, such a tiny part. I never thought of Amazon, I will check that out. Thank you for the offer to print them, I had no idea that such a fine part could be printed. Hank
On Tuesday, October 24, 2017, 7:53:44 PM MDT, irox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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I'm guess that if you're picking plastic strength is too a big of a concern. But do you have an idea of the strength requirements? Type of plastic?What type of center do you need?Could even do this in herronbone teeth.I could potentially print you up some gears and mailing them to you.
There is always Lego Technic gears as well:https://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-parts/technic/gear
Cheers, Ian.
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From: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles
Sent: Oct 24, 2017 4:08 PM
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Hank, What about aluminum ? Brian
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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
To: James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] gear set
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:29:32 +0000 (UTC)
Thanks' James will doHank
On Tuesday, October 24, 2017, 6:26:22 AM MDT, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
Have a look at hobbyking. They are usually pretty good.
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/catalogsearch/result/?erp_category=&q=gears
On 24 October 2017 at 13:02, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
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> Thanks guys, but these people have tons of gears, but they are metal. I am
> looking for plastic to keep the weight down. I need to take a trip to the
> dump and look for a fax machine or something that has gears.
> Hank
>
> On Monday, October 23, 2017, 9:05:59 PM MDT, Alec Smyth via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hank, if what you're looking for is not an animal but has teeth nonetheless,
> these folks probably have it.
>
> http://www.bostongear.com
>
>
> Best,
> Alec
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 8:59 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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> Hi All,
> I need ideas where I can find a plastic gear set for the wrist on my
> manipulator build. I have the rotary actuator built and the gripper is well
> under way. The way it works is, the rotary actuator shaft turns a shaft to
> open and close the fingers on the gripper (hand) The hand also free wheels
> on the same shaft so it can rotate 360 degrees continuously. So I need a
> gear about 2 .5 inches in diameter and a matching gear about .5 inches or
> less to drive the main gear. The gear set will be driven by a second
> rotary actuator with a drive shaft enclosed in the arm member.
> Any leads would be great.
> Hank
>
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