[PSUBS-MAILIST] 2017 Convention thoughts

[T Novak via Personal_Submersibles]

I just received the application for a special use permit for Wiskeytown
National Recreation Area.  It looks reasonable
 does Psubs.org have Social
Security Number or Tax Id number?

Tim

 

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This permit was put in place because this lake is a National Park (no
submersibles allowed without permit) and a dammed lake for hydro power and
there is a risk of submarine vehicles getting mixed up in the power
generation equipment.  The requirement for a permit is not a "No" but
usually requires informing the authorities of the planned activities and
getting them approved for the area of operation.  

 

I just now got off the phone with Acting Chief Ranger Charlie Hardy.  He
said that the Sea Breacher subs are built in Redding and that they have a
commercial use permit to operate those subs in Wiskeytown Lake.  For our
convention dive we will need a special use permit, which should be no
problem getting approved.  Ranger Hardy will email an application for the
special use permit.  He was most helpful and encouraging with respect to us
operating manned submersibles in Wiskeytown Lake.

 

It's not a gorgeous Florida reef, but a fresh water lake popular with divers
due to decent 30 foot visibility.  I expect the bottom is most likely mud,
but I can confirm that with locals.

 

What are everyone's opinions on having the convention at this location?

 

Tim

 

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It looks like the rule was enacted 7/1/2011 which places it about two months
prior to the ten-year anniversary of the twin tower attacks.  If you recall,
there was a lot of hub-bub circulating that some kind of attack was being
planned on the tenth anniversary so this was probably a proactive
restriction for that event.  I believe BIONIC DOLPHIN either operates or did
a lot of testing in that lake and their activity may have contributed to
such a rule.

Jon


On 2/25/2017 3:54 PM, River Dolfi via Personal_Submersibles wrote:

Just scanned through the Whiskeytown Lake website and found the list of park
rules and regs.

§ 3.19
    May I operate a submersible within park waters?
    The use of manned or unmanned submersibles may only occur in accordance
with a permit issued by the superintendent under § 1.6 of this chapter.

...So which one of you guys are responsible for that one?





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