[PSUBS-MAILIST] CAD for presentation

James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Fri May 27 10:46:40 EDT 2016


Hi Scott,

You can get a free copy of Autodesk Inventor if your a student.   Your a
member of the PiscesVI school of engineering right?

http://www.autodesk.com/education/free-software/all?_ga=1.79210973.872852730.1464360344

Regards
James

On 27 May 2016 at 14:52, Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Scott, I have been thinking about your request for CAD assistance for
> upcoming presentation.  I think with your Pisces VI build, you really have
> both tactical and strategic technical drawing needs.  Let look at the long
> range strategic need first.  Because you are going to make some changes to
> the boat, ABS is going to make you submit a report that among other things
> has a drawings set that reflects the current build, a weights and balance
> and buoyant accounting that rolls up the new CG and CB of the boat and a
> stress analysis of the pressure hull both in the form of the ABS hull
> stress calculations and an FEA.    The best way to get these is through a
> 3-D modeling package like Autodesk Inventor Pro or Solidworks.  My
> suggestion is to invest in one of the software packages and take a basic
> 3-D modeling training course on the software.  You then crawl into the
> belly of the beast with your tape measure and digital caliper and take the
> dimensions of each part and then model it in the 3-D modeling software.
> After you get all the parts modeled, you them make up assemblies of these
> parts that will enable you to turn out the 2-D prints of the parts and
> assemblies.   From this 3-D model, of your Pisces VI, you then can extract
> the CB, CG of the boat.  All of these 3-D software packages let you export
> STEP files of the model that can be read by the FEA software Sean uses.  If
> you pay some one to build this 3-D model, first of all it will cost a lot
> of money and every time you change anything you will have to go back the
> guy for an update.  In the long run, having this skill set (3-D modeling)
> will be very useful for future mechanical projects off all types.
>
> From a tactical perspective, what people are most interested in, from my
> perspective, on your renovation is what is the state of the boat at the
> time you acquired it documented by lots of pictures, and what the big
> pictures is on what you think you will need to do to get your ABS
> A1 recertification and lastly what are the major structural changes you are
> planning.  I don't know how much time you have for your presentation but my
> guess is 20 minutes or so.  If this is the case, on average you can count
> on about 1 min per slide so you have 20 slides to present.  This does not
> leave much time for presenting CAD work.  You might be able to get away
> with the basic drawing tools in Power point for these few slides on the
> changes.
>
> Make sure you put a slide in for your new mega shop which we are all
> salivating over and how you are going to dive this boat when your done in
> Kansas!
>
> Cliff
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:41 AM, via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>> OK. Thanks for the information
>>
>> Scott Waters
>>
>> >  -------Original Message-------
>> >  From: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] CAD for presentation
>> >  Sent: May 26 '16 10:30
>> >
>> >  Yeah, but it's very intuitive once you get into it.  Plus you could
>> generate data to make parts using a CNC.  More computer power = good thing !
>> >
>> >  Brian
>> >
>> >  --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
>> >
>> >  From: via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] CAD for presentation
>> >  Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 09:30:35 -0500
>> >
>> >  I am worried about the amount of time it would take me to learn to be
>> good with the software. From my understanding, it is quite the ramp up time.
>> >
>> >  Thank you,
>> >  Scott Waters
>> >
>> >  >  -------Original Message-------
>> >  >  From: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >  To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] CAD for presentation
>> >  >  Sent: May 25 '16 19:09
>> >  >
>> >  >  Scott,   You might want to think about getting set up with "machine
>> works" it's a type of cad program that integrates into CNC and also has
>> some FEA capability ( very advanced stuff) .  But you would need some
>> serious computer power to run the program.  But then designed components
>> could then be coded for machining, it has extensive modeling etc.. ,  state
>> of the art stuff.   -  Brian
>> >  >
>> >  >  --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
>> >  >
>> >  >  From: via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >  To: PSUBS <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >  Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] CAD for presentation
>> >  >  Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 15:06:13 -0500
>> >  >
>> >  >  I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I am planning on doing
>> a presentation at Underwater Intervention about the Pisces VI submarine. I
>> am wanting to show the components of the submarine how the sub originally
>> was and then how we are changing it. I am not trained in CAD and was
>> wondering if there is someone out there that could easily do this?
>> >  >
>> >  >  Thank you,
>> >  >  Scott Waters
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