[PSUBS-MAILIST] dive plane

Tue Sep 2 07:19:42 EDT 2014

Vance,
I plan to dive the hell out of Gamma over the next two months before I do anything.  I like the idea of raising the dive plane, and it is easily done.  I am still planning to make the dive plane jettisoning.
Hank --------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/1/14, via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

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 Hank,

 The Delta dive plane was moved up for three
 reasons. 1-to keep it from getting beat up on the surface,
 2-to get it out of the pilot's line of sight, and 3-to
 have more room and make it bigger. It definitely works
 better.

 As
 a side note, the control lever/penetration arrangement is
 exactly the same on Delta, with the only real difference
 being the angle of attack and the upward swept extension rod
 to the dive plane lever. It's a fix you could do, and
 might save you having to fool around with
 thrusters.

 Then again, if you are going to be messing around
 with wrecks...well, fine adjustments at slow and no speed
 are a  very good thing in my experience.

 Vance

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 Tim,
 There is one dive plane mounted at the top of the hull just
 behind the arm.  In 
 the fourth picture you posted from the convention you can
 see the mount just 
 above and behind the top of the arm.  There is a rod
 extending from under the 
 deck that controls the plane. The dive plane is smaller than
 the one on Delta 
 and also smaller than the original on Gamma.
 Hank--------------------------------------------
 On Mon, 9/1/14, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>

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  Received: Monday, September 1, 2014, 8:36 PM

  Hank,

  This does make sense, control surfaces must
  have water flowing over them (or
  attached
  thrusters) to do anything.  Thrusters alone would work
  unless you
  are gliding the sub up or down,
  then dive planes would do the trick. Would
  you upload a photo or two so that we can see
  how they are installed?

  Tim

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  Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] dive plane

  Big dive day today revealed
  that the dive plane on Gamma is not very
  effective.  It takes a lot of speed to work,
  makes sense.  I am thinking a
  thruster at
  the end of the dive plane might be beneficial.  I am
  planning a
  dive next weekend to look at the
  Anscomb ferry that sank in Kootenay lake.
  The bottom of the ship is about 200 feet or a
  bit less maybe. 
  Onward and downward.
  Hank 

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