[PSUBS-MAILIST] Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 16, Issue 36
roberto alvarez via Personal_Submersibles
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Sun Oct 26 22:40:47 EDT 2014
need i buy the plans to have a bill of materials for the k 350? i need know
the material list to quote, some one have it' ?
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> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
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> Graham,
> A jet ski jet is gigantic for a psub. Jet ski's have 50hp and more, the
> one I have is from a 750 cc two stroke engine. Mine has a 3 inch nozzle at
> least maybe more. Jets are very bad for maneuvering, they have no grip in
> the water like a prop. Yes fast ferries use them but they are owned by
> governments, check the fuel tank size lol. I would do some reading about
> jet viruses props. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea, and it is a fun
> idea, I just don't think it will do what you imagine it will. I hope I am
> wrong.
> Hank --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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> Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 11:06 AM
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>
> Hi Hank
>
>
> I agree a jet drive is the
> way to go did you not think that a jet ski drive
> was to small and would only drive a small
> craft. I intend to build a larger
> jet drive
> and compress the water. This will be easy and add power to
> the
> system the jet drive from a jet ski
> would not drive a sub but I am certain I
> can
> overcome the problems by building a larger jet drive and a
> compressor.
> Thank you for your input and I
> will keep you informed as the project un
> folds.
>
> Graham
>
>
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> Graham,
> In the world of marine
> jet drive it is well known that jet drive takes two
> times the horse power to do the same job.? Jet
> drive is well suited to a
> craft that needs a
> shallow draft.? I think you will find it very
> complicated
> to control and it will be very
> inefficient. I have been down this road, I
> love the concept but abandoned it.? If you go
> forward may I suggest you
> start with a jet
> drive.? It is not a simple part to replicate.? The
> impeller
> tolerances are critical.? I have a
> jet unit on the shelf I could donate to
> your
> project.? The jet is from a jet ski. I would consider a
> single rear
> motor on a full gimbal.
> Hank
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via
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> ?Hi? ?I am near the end of my build? of my k350 and
> have
> started to look at new designs I am?
> interested in building a flyer sub and
> have
> come up with a? design which will include a vectored motor
> drive this
> will? enable my flyer to hover
> and stop where ever I want. I have? designed
> a motor unit which will drive a fan type
> propeller? as an intake this will
> force
> water to the rear of the unit
> ?where it is
> compressed ?then it is forced into ducting? which will
> take?
> the water to four nozzles on the side
> of? the craft. The nozzles are able to
> turn
> three hundred and? sixty degrees? both side are
> independent of one
> another so? rolls will
> be achievable. The reason for a vectored motor is
> you only need one motor source and one power
> pack this will? ease the
> maintenance and
> increase the enjoyment of using? your sub. I am
> interested
> in the clubs thought of this
> kind? of design. ?Graham
> ?
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> Graham,
> message me at hankpronk at live.ca I am happy to send you some stuff.
> Hank--------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles <
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> Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 11:06 AM
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>
> Hi Hank
>
>
> I agree a jet drive is the
> way to go did you not think that a jet ski drive
> was to small and would only drive a small
> craft. I intend to build a larger
> jet drive
> and compress the water. This will be easy and add power to
> the
> system the jet drive from a jet ski
> would not drive a sub but I am certain I
> can
> overcome the problems by building a larger jet drive and a
> compressor.
> Thank you for your input and I
> will keep you informed as the project un
> folds.
>
> Graham
>
>
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> Graham,
> In the world of marine
> jet drive it is well known that jet drive takes two
> times the horse power to do the same job.? Jet
> drive is well suited to a
> craft that needs a
> shallow draft.? I think you will find it very
> complicated
> to control and it will be very
> inefficient. I have been down this road, I
> love the concept but abandoned it.? If you go
> forward may I suggest you
> start with a jet
> drive.? It is not a simple part to replicate.? The
> impeller
> tolerances are critical.? I have a
> jet unit on the shelf I could donate to
> your
> project.? The jet is from a jet ski. I would consider a
> single rear
> motor on a full gimbal.
> Hank
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via
> Personal_Submersibles
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> ?Hi? ?I am near the end of my build? of my k350 and
> have
> started to look at new designs I am?
> interested in building a flyer sub and
> have
> come up with a? design which will include a vectored motor
> drive this
> will? enable my flyer to hover
> and stop where ever I want. I have? designed
> a motor unit which will drive a fan type
> propeller? as an intake this will
> force
> water to the rear of the unit
> ?where it is
> compressed ?then it is forced into ducting? which will
> take?
> the water to four nozzles on the side
> of? the craft. The nozzles are able to
> turn
> three hundred and? sixty degrees? both side are
> independent of one
> another so? rolls will
> be achievable. The reason for a vectored motor is
> you only need one motor source and one power
> pack this will? ease the
> maintenance and
> increase the enjoyment of using? your sub. I am
> interested
> in the clubs thought of this
> kind? of design. ?Graham
> ?
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> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:16:38 -0000
> From: Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles
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> Hi Marc de Piolenc
>
> I agree whole heartedly there is nothing inefficient about a water jet just
> point it one way and add power and you will end up going the other way as
> they say a=b= push. I will carry on with this and have a working craft at
> the end to enjoy.
>
> Graham
>
>
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> On Behalf Of Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles
> Sent: 26 October 2014 14:11
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> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Water jets
>
> There is nothing inherently inefficient about waterjets. There are
> commercial fast ferries using them and getting very good thrust per
> horsepower - better than any supercavitating propeller could do at the same
> speed, certainly.
>
> Lousy design will of course produce poor results, and jets are much less
> amenable to rule-of-thumb construction than open propellers. But whether it
> is "well known" or not, good design will produce good results.
>
> Marc de Piolenc
>
> On 10/26/2014 8:41 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
> >
> > Graham,
> > In the world of marine jet drive it is well known that jet drive takes
> two
> times the horse power to do the same job. Jet drive is well suited to a
> craft that needs a shallow draft. I think you will find it very
> complicated
> to control and it will be very inefficient. I have been down this road, I
> love the concept but abandoned it. If you go forward may I suggest you
> start with a jet drive. It is not a simple part to replicate. The
> impeller
> tolerances are critical. I have a jet unit on the shelf I could donate to
> your project. The jet is from a jet ski. I would consider a single rear
> motor on a full gimbal.
> > Hank --------------------------------------------
> > On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> >
> > Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)
> > To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'"
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> > #yiv9417249292 Hi I am near the end of my build
> > of my k350 and have started to look at new designs I am
> > interested in building a flyer sub and have come up with a
> > design which will include a vectored motor drive this will
> > enable my flyer to hover and stop where ever I want. I have
> > designed a motor unit which will drive a fan type propeller
> > as an intake this will force water to the rear of the unit
> > where it is compressed then it is forced into ducting
> > which will take the water to four nozzles on the side of
> > the craft. The nozzles are able to turn three hundred and
> > sixty degrees both side are independent of one another so
> > rolls will be achievable. The reason for a vectored motor is
> > you only need one motor source and one power pack this will
> > ease the maintenance and increase the enjoyment of using
> > your sub. I am interested in the clubs thought of this kind
> > of design. Graham
> >
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> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:25:40 -0700
> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
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> Alec,
> This project will take some time, and some experimenting. I am using a
> 23cubic inch hyd motor to drive the cart. I am not sure that will do it,
> so I am building it to take any motor.
> Hank--------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 10/26/14, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <
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> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] cart last days
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> Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 9:07 AM
>
> What
> impresses me is that to most of us this would be a six month
> or year-long project, but I would not be surprised to see
> pictures in a day or two!
> Alec
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at
> 6:21 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <
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> wrote:
> I just
> pushed my launch cart into the shop for the last time.?
> Tomorrow it will be reborn.? The cart is getting a new rear
> axel that steers via hyd cylinder, the front is getting a
> 1/2 ton chev differential with a hydraulic motor to drive
> it.? The cart then gets two dual chamber pontoons that act
> as ballast tanks.? On top of one pontoon will be a 6 1/2 hp
> Honda motor that drives a hyd pump to power and steer the
> cart,? as well as a 24v alternator to charge my sub
> batteries.? I will be able to drive the cart with the sub
> on it down the boat ramp or beach or whatever into the
> water.? The cart will stay anchored in the water, until I
> am ready to put the sub on and drive back to my trailer.
> SWEET
>
> Hank
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> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:11:26 -0400
> From: Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles
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> I don't think water jets are necessarily inefficient, but if there is
> considerable piping around of the water before it exits through the jets,
> that's what I was referring to. However, even that was not meant as
> criticism, it is just a normal trade-off. It is surely less efficient than
> a conventional direct-coupled prop, but you also get
> entanglement-resistance and maneuverability.
>
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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> > There is nothing inherently inefficient about waterjets. There are
> > commercial fast ferries using them and getting very good thrust per
> > horsepower - better than any supercavitating propeller could do at the
> same
> > speed, certainly.
> >
> > Lousy design will of course produce poor results, and jets are much less
> > amenable to rule-of-thumb construction than open propellers. But whether
> it
> > is "well known" or not, good design will produce good results.
> >
> > Marc de Piolenc
> >
> > On 10/26/2014 8:41 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Graham,
> >> In the world of marine jet drive it is well known that jet drive takes
> >> two times the horse power to do the same job. Jet drive is well suited
> to
> >> a craft that needs a shallow draft. I think you will find it very
> >> complicated to control and it will be very inefficient. I have been down
> >> this road, I love the concept but abandoned it. If you go forward may I
> >> suggest you start with a jet drive. It is not a simple part to
> replicate.
> >> The impeller tolerances are critical. I have a jet unit on the shelf I
> >> could donate to your project. The jet is from a jet ski. I would
> consider
> >> a single rear motor on a full gimbal.
> >> Hank --------------------------------------------
> >> On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles <
> >> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)
> >> To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'" <
> >> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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> >> #yiv9417249292 Hi I am near the end of my build
> >> of my k350 and have started to look at new designs I am
> >> interested in building a flyer sub and have come up with a
> >> design which will include a vectored motor drive this will
> >> enable my flyer to hover and stop where ever I want. I have
> >> designed a motor unit which will drive a fan type propeller
> >> as an intake this will force water to the rear of the unit
> >> where it is compressed then it is forced into ducting
> >> which will take the water to four nozzles on the side of
> >> the craft. The nozzles are able to turn three hundred and
> >> sixty degrees both side are independent of one another so
> >> rolls will be achievable. The reason for a vectored motor is
> >> you only need one motor source and one power pack this will
> >> ease the maintenance and increase the enjoyment of using
> >> your sub. I am interested in the clubs thought of this kind
> >> of design. Graham
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