[PSUBS-MAILIST] Commercial question
hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
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Thu May 15 19:52:58 EDT 2014
Scott,
I will take two Magnetic coupled thrusters
and an arm please. Do you take pay pal :-)
Hank--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 5/15/14, swaters via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Commercial question
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Received: Thursday, May 15, 2014, 7:45 PM
Ugggg.
E-commerece is such a pain in the ass for my business.
Hahaha. -Scott Waters
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Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
Scott,>>>> Iam going to figure
out how I can make a Canada trip and visit you and write it
off as a business expense :)
Buy some submarine parts off Phil & sell them at a
loss to psubbers via an internet
sales arm of yourbusiness.Alan
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Phil,That
really clears it up alot. I know business has been good for
you based on how busy you have been. That is awesome. I know
all of us business owners strive to remain relevant and it
seems you have done well. I face the struggle every day in a
shrinking market place due to the big box stores. We have
seemed to carve out our niche and have really started to
grow alot, but it is a deffenet fight tooth and nail. I buy
alot of inventory from a company in Calgary and they have
been wanting me to visit there factory for years. Iam going
to figure out how I can make a Canada trip and visit you and
write it off as a business expense
:)Thank
you,Scott
Waters
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Phil Nuytten via
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<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
Hi, Scott,
The major reason that
quite a few operators prefer subs over ROV’s is the
absence of a surface tether. This allows you to go
places that you
shouldn’t and wouldn’t go with a machine because the
risk of entanglement –
inside platform legs, pile jackets, etc., There are a number
of other reasons
that have to do with the operators senses being right on the
site rather than a
half a mile away. Difficult to explain is the ‘whole
grasp’ scenario that ROV
operators who try manned subs almost always mention. Simply
put, in a sub with a
wide view port or a 360 degree dome, you have a strong
sense of where
everything is – how long ago you passed that pipeline,
what direction it’s in to
go back to, the lay of the bottom, the trending of the
currents, where to
find lees to hide in, how to avoid ‘box canyon’ current
pins, the ability to hit
‘auto altitude’ and fly a fixed height above a pipeline
or cable regardless of
the bottom (and therefore the cable’s) undulations. When
it comes to doing
complex work using manips, there’s no contest man versus
machines. Machines do
get the work done if they are set up properly, but much
slower and with many
tries, compared to the pilot whose hand on the joystick is
five feet away from
the work .
You often hear ROV types
say ‘well, it’s just the same as being there”. .
. Yeah, right! just like telephone sex is the same as
the real
thing!
I’ll get off my
soapbox now.
Phil
From: swaters via
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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:43 PM
To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Commercial
question
I have always heard that
ROV's are cheaper to operate, less risky, and
cheaper to buy. I was curious what is the advantages of
submarines in the
commercial world such as the oil industry? It seems like
Phil Nuyten has been
able to be sucsessful with submarines. Just a curiousity of
mine.
Thanks,
Scott Waters
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