[PSUBS-MAILIST] radio's

Fri Mar 28 18:49:55 EDT 2014

Yea. I was worried about spending a ton of money on a sonar and under water comms. I did alot of research to make me feel better about it.
Thanks,
Scott Waters

Sent from my U.S. Cellular© SmartphoneAlan James <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com> wrote:Looks like you've done your homework on it Scott.
Simrad has just put out a forward scanner but I can't find a price.
I think this will be the last item I buy on my current build, as technology
seems to change so quickly. 
Alan

From: swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] radio's

I would rip the transducer off the deployment system and hard mount it on the underside of the front. This would allow a 270 degree range or so. Seeing behind you isn't that terrebly important in my eyes. The transducer will go way down. It is epoxy filled and has no air in it. 
Thanks,
Scott Waters

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Alan James <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com> wrote:
Scott,
just had a look at the Hummingbird 360. Very impressive.
I wonder what depth you could take the transducer down to?
It has a deployment system where it is lowered below the boat.
I'm not sure how we would get around the fact that it would be
quite vulnerable mounted unobstructed & below the submarine.
Alan

From: swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:01 AM
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If you can afford it, get the 360 degree modual. It is another $2,000, but it would do forward looking, side scan, and downward!
Thanks,
Scott Waters

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Alan James <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hank,
I'm not clued up on sonar, but I remember reading that G.L. requires a downward & forward looking
sonar. Certainly the forward looking sonar would be useful for collision avoidance in low vis conditions.
Alan

From: hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:10 AM
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Alan,
From what I can find so far, the diver equip does  not have near the range.  If the figures are true with my radio's, my wife can sit on the dock and read her book and check in with me from time to time.
Hank

On Friday, March 28, 2014 11:40:33 AM, Alan James <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hank,
your communication equipment might have a lot more power
than a divers unit. The diver has to carry the batteries
with him & is not going as deep as you are.
Alan

From: hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:29 AM
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Scott,
I would love to see some pictures of the image you get on your sonar.  When you start testing could you post some pic's . 
Hank

On Friday, March 28, 2014 11:18:57 AM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
Sweet. Good luck! Let me know if I can help on anything. 
-Scott Waters

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hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
Thanks' Scott,
I have sent out a couple of inquires and I will see what comes back.
Hank

On Friday, March 28, 2014 10:00:01 AM, "swaters at waters-ks.com" <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
Here is the link Hank. Great deals on underwater comms. This is where I got mine for my sub and surface unit.
http://ots.mwrc.net/en/category.php?product_category_id=9370

Thanks,
Scott Waters

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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] radio's
From: hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
Date: Fri, March 28, 2014 8:46 am
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Scott,
I agree, but I am having a hard time finding anything on line.  The tec did say my radio's are better than today's radio's.  He was probably giving me a sales job though.
Hank

On Friday, March 28, 2014 9:42:23 AM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
Oh wow. Ok. I was going to say if it was OTS you can send it in for repair. You might check the range and quaility of the radio so you can make a decision if repairing makes sence or if it would be better to buy new units (or used). Alot of times newer technology is better and less expensive especially when it comes to repair. That way you can get the biggest bang for your buck. 
Thanks,
Scott Waters

hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
I found some info on the radio's, seems they are the original radio's.  Manufactured by EDO Corporation.  They were refurbished in 1992
Hank

On Friday, March 28, 2014 9:28:27 AM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
Scott,
I got the quote from a electronic repair shop.  The radio's are not OTS, I can not remember the name off hand and all the manuals etc are at their shop now.  The radio's are made for submarines, they are not diver radio's.  The radio's are rack mount and they were even labeled with Nekton Gamma on them.
Hank

On Friday, March 28, 2014 9:10:48 AM, "swaters at waters-ks.com" <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
Who did you say gave you the quote? Is this OTS brand?
Thanks,
Scott Waters 

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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] radio's
From: hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
Date: Fri, March 28, 2014 8:00 am
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Steve,
The radio's do not work completely now.  The pinger works and one frequency works only.  They are cleaning up the corrosion and re-sealing them and they claim the radio's will work perfect as new.
Hank

On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:16:43 AM, Steve McQueen <psub101 at indy.rr.com> wrote:
Hi Hank, I was just curious if you had more specifics regarding "rebuild". What is in that scope? Do they work now?
Steve

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:14 PM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
Hi All,
I need radio advice. My technician tells me, he can rebuild my radio's to as new condition for 2,000 dollars.  He has checked them out and says they are very good radio's and the transducers are perfect.  The radio's have a 1,000 foot depth rating and 6 km range according to the manual.   I am assuming this is much better than buying new radio's. I have no idea what these are worth and I want to make sure I am not fixing radio's that I can replace for the same money.
I would appreciate some advice before I pull the trigger and tell them to fix the radio's.
Hank

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