[PSUBS-MAILIST] insurance

[hank pronk]

Brian,
So far, you won't be keeping your sub in a marina requiring insurance.  Maybe if you call it a boat not a sub.
Hank



On Thursday, March 27, 2014 5:59:02 PM, Brian Cox <brian at ojaivalleybeefarm.com> wrote:
  
What about if you want to keep your sub in a slip in a marina, most of the marinas require insurance for your boat.

Brian

--- MerlinSub at t-online.de wrote:

From: "Carsten Standfuß " <MerlinSub at t-online.de>
To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] insurance
Date: 27 Mar 2014 22:48 GMT

Thats right. If you make bad saftey 
precautions or a mistake.. 

But if you make no mistake and he
just wash 
overboard and battered in pieces by the propeller
- and later
his 
lawer comes with funny arguments, like "there is no railing all
around on 
your submarine and my client was not aware of it." 

In that
case you 
have a nice paper that your guest have notice that.. 
If somebody not
sign 
this paper he will not tavel with the submarine.. 

groet 
Carsten


"Emile van Essen" <emile at airesearch.nl> schrieb: 
But anyway passenger have to sign a paper that
a submarine is a potential dangerous machine and they take the trip on
there
own risk.  
>Doing this makes no sense. If a accident is related to
bad safety precautions or a big mistake by the pilot, you have a
problem
anyway..  
>Regards, Emile    
>
>________________________________
>  
>Van:Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] Namens "Carsten Standfuß "
>Verzonden: donderdag 27 maart 2014
18:11
>Aan: Personal Submersibles General
Discussion
>Onderwerp: Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST]
insurance  
>All SL classe subs have a insurance. 
>
>Nessesary if you try to carry passengers for money. 
>
>The lawer of the children of a 90 years old passenger with a deadly
heardattack
on his birthday travel
>in your sub will strip you to nothing if you have no insurance. 
>
>Euronaut has no class but a P&I insurance due to the owners
good
network in the shipbuilding industry. 
>And maybe due to the fact that the owner work as naval architect and
time to
time for a classification society..
>But anyway passenger have to sign a paper that a submarine
is a
potential dangerous machine and they take the trip on there own risk. 
>
>But why you want to insure? The insurance will only cover the damage the
sub do
to others. 
>I dont think that you sub will do major damage to others. Such a
minimum
insurance will cost you about 4000-5000 USD a year. 
>A full insurance in all directions will cost you maybe 10 times more. 
>
>And if teh sub sinks it will be much cheaper if you raise it by
yourself.
Just in case you survife.. 
>
>For transport on a road you can insure the boat just as cargo or
Motorboat. 
>The insurance will not see a special risk in that. And for storage it
should be
the same. 
>
>vbr Carsten
>
>
>
>"hank pronk" <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> schrieb:  
>I
have made an attempt to buy insurance for my sub.  I contacted my
insurance broker that I deal with for my business as well as my daughter
who is
an insurance broker.  It is not possible unless the sub is
certified.  I was only looking for insurance to cover loss during
storage
and during transport.  I was only looking for a set amount to
cover
my actual costs.   
>My
next attempt will be adding cargo insurance through my business and
maybe my
home insurance can be modified. 
>Does
anyone have insurance on a sub here? 
>Hank     _______________________________________________
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