[PSUBS-MAILIST] rpm

Sat Aug 30 16:42:53 EDT 2014

The marvel mystery oil does have a very low viscosity - 2.6 cSt  but that is probably because it has mineral spirits in it, it is flammable and has a flashpoint of 160 degrees.

here is a link to the penreco mineral oils, I use a cosmetic grade mineral oil in my beeswax skin cream (Drake oil #7) ,  I buy a drum at a time so I guess I'm sort of partial to it.  But you can get lower viscosity than what I use.

http://www.penreco.com/images/spec-sheets/White_Oil.pdf

Brian

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From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] rpm
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:49:41 -0700

Jim, Thanks' I was going to ask what is the preferred oil.
I have been using WD40 for some time now and found no problems.  I did have a clear tube running to a motor and it hardened.  Other than that the motors I have are on their  third sub and still working.  I will make the switch to marvel mystery oil since I am now out of WD40. 
Hank 
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 Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] rpm
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 Received: Saturday, August 30, 2014, 9:22 AM

 Hank,

 I don't know if you will find an oil with lower
 viscosity than WD40.  
 The problem with WD40 is that it is a solvent that damages
 plastic and rubber 
 components within the motor.  Alec Smyth did a lot of
 testing on various 
 oils.  The last I knew the medium of choice was Marvel
 Mystery Oil.  
 It's safe for the seals, etc., and has a lower viscosity
 than any straight 
 mineral oil.

 For thrusters, comparative amp draw at a given RPM
 (with associated heat 
 build-up) is probably more significant than drop in maximum
 RPM since we're 
 not generally operating at maximum.  That might not be true
 when you're 
 using the motor to operate a pump.

 Jim

 In a message dated 8/30/2014 5:51:09 A.M. Central
 Daylight Time, 
 personal_submersibles at psubs.org writes:
 Brian,
 Yes, I have heard others have had good success
 with 
   different oils.  Maybe the rpm drop is less with other
 oils.  

 Hank
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 Hank, There is a very thin 
   mineral
 oil that might be better that the
 wd 40

 Brian

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 Vance,
 Yes for sure, 
   Gamma has two separate amp gauges, one for the
 motor and one for the rest 
   of the sub. All 24v and the
 trolling motor
 is 12 v
 Hank 

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   Yeah, 
   too
   simple. Maybe that's a good
 guess, but..... I will say

   that an ammeter in the boat is a good thing. You can
 keep
 an
   eye 
   on things, and if it goes UP at some stage, you would
   suspect a 
   thruster issue (a tangle, or a bearing failure
 or
   whatever). All 
   it takes is an appropriate shunt and a
 gauge
   (in my pre-digital 
   steampunk mind). Okay, thanks anyway. I

 was curious, that's 
   all.
   Vance

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   Vance,
   I did not do an 
   amp draw test because I do not have the

 technology in house. I 

   would guess with a 10% rpm drop, there
 may be a 10% amp

   increase. That would be 
   to simple
 :-)

   Hank

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   3:39 PM

   Hank,
   Did you check the amperage? I 
   wonder if the
   resistance causes a
 higher draw, and if so, 
   how
   much?

   Vance

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   I am working on a
 hydraulic
   pump that will be 
   external and pressure compensated 
   in
 oil.  I am using a 
   trolling motor to drive
 the pump.  A
   while back there was 

   a question about rpm drop when a
 trolling motor 
   is
 filled
   with oil.  I
 bench 
   tested that today, 
   and the motor runs at 2,000rpm
 stock
 and
   1,800 rpm full of 

   WD40.
   Hank

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